Greetings.
You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group in the fedora account system (or are reading this on the infrastructure list).
Feel free to reply just directly to me, or cc the infrastructure list for everyone to see and comment on.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice
At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for you.
I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the following data or anything related you can think of that might help us make the apprentice program more useful.
0. Whats your fedora account system login?
1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?
2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute to more?
3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice 'easyfix' tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14
4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?
5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help you do any of the above?
6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved? Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you? Finding tickets in your interest area?
7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them helpful or interesting?
8. What is your favorite movie of all time?
Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.
Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the group up to date with active folks).
Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
kevin
I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the following data or anything related you can think of that might help us make the apprentice program more useful.
- Whats your fedora account system login?
jtroan
- Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?
Yes
- Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
to more?
Somewhat, but my first area of focus was decided in May -- creating the map, big picture, server list, etc. of fp.o.
The intent is to help show 1) How fp.o is laid out logically, connectively, and geographically. 2) What are all the pieces in the big picture and what they do. This part includes a (very) short description of what each type of server does and (hopefully) a link to something within the fp.o wiki/docs that has all of the details.
- Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
'easyfix' tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14
Yes, but even the "easyfix" tickets were more than I could dive into without having to ask a ton of questions.
- Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?
Absolutely.
- Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
you do any of the above?
Based on some comments I've seen on IRC since I joined in May, the onboarding of newbies needs improvement. Hopefully, my project (in #2 above) will help with some of that.
- What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you? Finding tickets in your interest area?
The absolute biggest problem is getting enough hours to do this. (36-hour days and quitting my paying job are the best solutions, but neither is particularly practical. :) )
From a realistic point of view, the hardest part at the beginning was (and
still is) how fp.o is organized (not people-organized, but system-organized)... what does the fp.o environment look like? Working on my project (in #2 above) is helping me see this.
The other notable challenge is all of the terminology, acronyms, and shorthand I see used on the IRC channels. I know from job experience that this type of thing just happens when the long-timers (lifers?) are so familiar with it all ... and it's just a matter of time and research to fill in some gaps.
- Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
helpful or interesting?
Yes, even to the point of rearranging my work schedule to be able to attend them from home. (I probably can't reach IRC from the office, but it also gives me a dedicated block of time to spend on FP.)
They are definitely interesting and somewhat helpful. Still being a newbie, I don't understand everything going on and the meetings are a combination of help and confusion.
- What is your favorite movie of all time?
(This wasn't on last month's list. :) )
I don't know if I can name just one. Several of my favories include most (but not all) of the Star Trek movies... Spaceballs... Hunt for Red October... Hudson Hawk... most (all?) of the official Bond franchise...
Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.
Some of the documentation needs to be cleaned up, possibly updated, and connected together better. I'm thinking of making this my next project, considering that I'm still very much behind the (learning) curve in being readily able to provide any technical help.
======================================================================= John M. Troan jtroan@jt-sw.com Maintainer: Football Site @ JT-SW.com http://www.jt-sw.com/football Chief of Computer Operations U.S.S. Kitty Hawk / NCC-1659 =======================================================================
0. Whats your fedora account system login?
lrsz
1. Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?
Not yet but I want to
2. Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute to more?
I´m planning to looking around to make my decisions
3. Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice 'easyfix' tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14
I looked at them but I was not able to contribute, I mean not yet ....
4. Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?
Yes , please
5. Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help you do any of the above?
I tried to connect to the server but I got a problem with the credentials and I just ask in the IRC channel but I haven´t found the solution.
6. What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved? Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you? Finding tickets in your interest area?
The hardest part of getting involved is see where you can help, I can see that there is so much work to do but before to start to help I need to be involved with the projects and that´s what I´m currently doing.
7. Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them helpful or interesting?
I haven´t assisted the irc meetings yet
8. What is your favorite movie of all time?
LOTR
2014-07-05 8:59 GMT-04:00 jtroan@jt-sw.com:
I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the following data or anything related you can think of that might help us make the apprentice program more useful.
- Whats your fedora account system login?
jtroan
- Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?
Yes
- Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
to more?
Somewhat, but my first area of focus was decided in May -- creating the map, big picture, server list, etc. of fp.o.
The intent is to help show
- How fp.o is laid out logically, connectively, and geographically.
- What are all the pieces in the big picture and what they do. This part
includes a (very) short description of what each type of server does and (hopefully) a link to something within the fp.o wiki/docs that has all of the details.
- Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
'easyfix' tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14
Yes, but even the "easyfix" tickets were more than I could dive into without having to ask a ton of questions.
- Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?
Absolutely.
- Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
you do any of the above?
Based on some comments I've seen on IRC since I joined in May, the onboarding of newbies needs improvement. Hopefully, my project (in #2 above) will help with some of that.
- What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you? Finding tickets in your interest area?
The absolute biggest problem is getting enough hours to do this. (36-hour days and quitting my paying job are the best solutions, but neither is particularly practical. :) )
From a realistic point of view, the hardest part at the beginning was (and still is) how fp.o is organized (not people-organized, but system-organized)... what does the fp.o environment look like? Working on my project (in #2 above) is helping me see this.
The other notable challenge is all of the terminology, acronyms, and shorthand I see used on the IRC channels. I know from job experience that this type of thing just happens when the long-timers (lifers?) are so familiar with it all ... and it's just a matter of time and research to fill in some gaps.
- Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
helpful or interesting?
Yes, even to the point of rearranging my work schedule to be able to attend them from home. (I probably can't reach IRC from the office, but it also gives me a dedicated block of time to spend on FP.)
They are definitely interesting and somewhat helpful. Still being a newbie, I don't understand everything going on and the meetings are a combination of help and confusion.
- What is your favorite movie of all time?
(This wasn't on last month's list. :) )
I don't know if I can name just one. Several of my favories include most (but not all) of the Star Trek movies... Spaceballs... Hunt for Red October... Hudson Hawk... most (all?) of the official Bond franchise...
Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.
Some of the documentation needs to be cleaned up, possibly updated, and connected together better. I'm thinking of making this my next project, considering that I'm still very much behind the (learning) curve in being readily able to provide any technical help.
======================================================================= John M. Troan jtroan@jt-sw.com Maintainer: Football Site @ JT-SW.com http://www.jt-sw.com/football Chief of Computer Operations U.S.S. Kitty Hawk / NCC-1659 =======================================================================
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On Jul 4, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com wrote:
Greetings.
You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group in the fedora account system (or are reading this on the infrastructure list).
Feel free to reply just directly to me, or cc the infrastructure list for everyone to see and comment on.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice
At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for you.
I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the following data or anything related you can think of that might help us make the apprentice program more useful.
- Whats your fedora account system login?
lanica
- Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?
Yes
- Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
to more?
Somewhat. If I had to pick one it would be "web", however I'm used to having access to all systems and working on the highest priorities (in my work environment.)
- Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
'easyfix' tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14
I have looked at them but definitely will need to ask quite a few questions. I'm in and out work wise for about a week.
- Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?
Absolutely.
- Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
you do any of the above?
I'll jump in the channels or email the lists when I have some time.
- What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you? Finding tickets in your interest area?
Gathering all of the information about the environments. It seems that most sources of information are not oriented towards new individuals -- in other words you have to know what you're looking for. There's almost always someone available in at least one of the channels so that's not a problem at all.
- Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
helpful or interesting?
Yes. I think they are very helpful and interesting to hear what other projects are being worked on.
- What is your favorite movie of all time?
Back to the Future...perhaps
Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.
Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the group up to date with active folks).
Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
kevin
On 07/04/2014 09:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
- Whats your fedora account system login?
msuchy
- Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?
No. I'm mostly relying on presence in systadmin-cloud membership.
- Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
to more?
Cloud.
- Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
'easyfix' tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14
No.
- Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?
I'm considering to leave and focus on sysadmin-cloud.
- Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
you do any of the above?
no.
- What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you? Finding tickets in your interest area?
To find free time :)
- Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
helpful or interesting?
Yes to both.
- What is your favorite movie of all time?
"At ziji duchove" and if fact most of movies from this director: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0513792/
On 07/04/2014 02:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Greetings.
- Whats your fedora account system login?
dmossor
- Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?
No. Yes.
- Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
to more?
No. See above.
- Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
'easyfix' tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14
No.
- Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?
Yes.
- Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
you do any of the above?
No.
- What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you? Finding tickets in your interest area?
Tickets.
- Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
helpful or interesting?
Yes. I wish to note, however, that I will not be able to attend any meetings until August 14 due to university class at that time.
- What is your favorite movie of all time?
The Last Starfighter.
Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
kevin
You're Welcome Dan
On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 13:00 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Greetings.
You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group in the fedora account system (or are reading this on the infrastructure list).
Feel free to reply just directly to me, or cc the infrastructure list for everyone to see and comment on.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice
At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for you.
I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the following data or anything related you can think of that might help us make the apprentice program more useful.
- Whats your fedora account system login?
willo
- Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?
Yes
- Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
to more?
No
- Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
'easyfix' tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14
No
- Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?
Yes
- Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
you do any of the above?
Not, that either I or others have recently raised.
- What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you? Finding tickets in your interest area?
Tickets.
- Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
helpful or interesting?
Not recently, but I've been following the IRC logs afterwards.
- What is your favorite movie of all time?
Zombieland
Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.
Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the group up to date with active folks).
Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
kevin _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list infrastructure@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
Hello all,
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com wrote:
Greetings.
You are getting this email because you are in the 'fi-apprentice' group in the fedora account system (or are reading this on the infrastructure list).
Feel free to reply just directly to me, or cc the infrastructure list for everyone to see and comment on.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice
At the first of every month(or so), I am going to be sending out an email like this one. I would like feedback on how things are going for you.
I'd like to ask for everyone to send me a quick reply with the following data or anything related you can think of that might help us make the apprentice program more useful.
- Whats your fedora account system login?
aphukan
- Have you logged in and used your fi-apprentice membership to look at
our machines/setup in the last month? Do you plan to?
yes
- Has it helped you decide any area you wish to focus on or contribute
to more?
- Have you looked at or been able to work on any of the fi-apprentice
'easyfix' tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14
Yes
- Do you still wish to be a member of the group? If not (for whatever
reason) could you provide any hints to help others down the road?
Yes
- Is there any help or communication or ideas you have that would help
you do any of the above?
- What do you find to be the hardest part of getting involved?
Finding things to work on? Getting attention from others to help you? Finding tickets in your interest area?
- Have you been able to make any weekly irc meetings? Do you find them
helpful or interesting?
8. What is your favorite movie of all time?
The good, the bad and the ugly. :)
Any other general feedback is also quite welcome, including improvements to this email, the wiki page, etc.
Any folks I do not hear from in the next week will be removed from the group. (Note that it's easy to be readded when you have time or whatever and it's nothing at all personal, we just want to keep the group up to date with active folks).
Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
kevin
infrastructure@lists.fedoraproject.org