#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2014-05-15)
Meeting started by nirik at 18:02:19 UTC. The full logs are available at
* welcome my friends (nirik, 18:02:20)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 18:03:28)
* no may fi-apprentice status update email, look for one in june.
* ootbro to work on map/landscape/overview of infra architecture.
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:10:32)
* pkgdb2 is now in production. Hurray! (nirik, 18:10:42)
* LINK: https://gist.github.com/CodeBlock/b6f9020a3f129a29f5c8
I have so far. (relrod, 18:18:01)
* a few pkgdb2 issues outstanding, working on them (nirik, 18:19:08)
* Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 18:19:31)
* reinstalled all our old blade servers as koji buildhw builders.
* reinstalled fas02 as x86_64 with more memory (nirik, 18:21:42)
* nagios/alerts recap (nirik, 18:23:05)
* LINK: http://is.gd/1i0Eqe
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:26:50)
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
* our bodhi2/taskotron fad is coming up! (nirik, 18:27:10)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:33:31)
Meeting ended at 18:42:41 UTC.
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People Present (lines said)
* nirik (82)
* pingou (21)
* ootbro (14)
* bwood09 (12)
* threebean (8)
* Daredel (7)
* mhaynes (6)
* relrod (5)
* zodbot (4)
* lmacken (3)
* abadger1999 (2)
* tflink (2)
* mpduty1 (1)
* smooge (1)
* webpigeon (1)
* janeznemanic (1)
* puiterwijk (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* dgilmore (0)
18:02:19 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2014-05-15)
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18:02:19 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
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18:02:20 <nirik> #topic welcome my friends
18:02:20 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch
threebean pingou puiterwijk
18:02:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou
puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
18:02:24 * threebean
18:02:30 * lmacken
18:02:32 * pingou
18:02:36 * relrod
18:02:39 <abadger1999> Greetings
18:02:42 <janeznemanic> hi
18:02:55 * tflink
18:03:02 <ootbro> hey y'all.....
18:03:03 * bwood09 is here
18:03:11 * nirik waves to everyone
18:03:14 * mpduty1 is present
18:03:28 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
18:03:35 <nirik> any new folks want to introduce themselves?
18:03:43 <nirik> or apprentices with comments, questions or ideas? ;)
18:03:49 <mhaynes> I'll say hi
18:04:00 <mhaynes> MIchael Haynes here. Software developer from southern Alabama
(US) looking to apply my dev skills to whatever I can while learning some new things that
are hopefully related to networking and security. See my mailing list note for more info.
18:04:29 <nirik> welcome mhaynes. :) Are you more interested in sysadmin or
application development, or both?
18:04:51 <mhaynes> Sysadmin.. been writing code for years as a daily job and want to
expand my horizons
18:05:07 <nirik> Also, I'd like to note: There was no May apprentice update
email. I was gone on vacation and forgot about it... so we are just going to skip may and
there will be one for june. ;)
18:05:24 <nirik> mhaynes: great. See me in #fedora-admin after the meeting and I can
add you to our apprentice program.
18:05:37 <mhaynes> Thanks nirik
18:05:45 <ootbro> one of the new apprentices here...... with an idea for a new
project that I've discussed (briefly) with nirik.
18:05:54 <ootbro> In last week's meeting, someone brought up the idea of a
pictoral landscape of FP.... so after some thought (and trying to figure out what I can do
here), I decided that I'd bite. I'm already doing something similar for my paying
job (but for some Lotus Domino servers).
18:06:00 <ootbro> Nagios has a map page, but FP has too many servers for a clear
picture of FP's landscape. I looked at a couple of the docs in
as a place to get started from.
18:06:32 <nirik> ootbro: it seems like a fine plan to me. ;) A nice overview and map
type thing would be nice...
18:07:31 <ootbro> I haven't settled on final product form. I was thinking of
.png, but realized a .pdf might be better -- I can add links to it.
18:08:07 <nirik> yeah... it would be nice also to have it easy to modify as things
18:08:23 <nirik> (not that they do all that often)
18:08:39 <ootbro> but no IT system is static, so change is expected
18:08:49 <nirik> yep. very true.
18:09:06 <nirik> #info no may fi-apprentice status update email, look for one in
18:09:26 * webpigeon late
18:09:26 <nirik> #info ootbro to work on map/landscape/overview of infra
18:09:42 <nirik> anything else for apprentices or new folks ?
18:09:46 <ootbro> I'll post the idea to the mailing list, too, for feedback
18:09:51 <ootbro> (done)
18:10:17 <nirik> ootbro: great. Do ask when you run into questions on things...
happy to help you out.
18:10:32 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
18:10:33 <ootbro> nirik: many thanks for the offer.
18:10:42 <nirik> #info pkgdb2 is now in production. Hurray!
18:11:01 <threebean> yay!
18:11:11 <pingou> \ó/
18:11:32 <pingou> nice team effort to get it deployed :)
18:11:43 <nirik> a bit of interaction issues we didn't expect... ;( but we
18:12:20 <threebean> yeah, it was a long day ;)
18:12:25 <nirik> there's only a few things left on app servers. I am really
looking forward to moving the last bits off there and nuking them. ;)
18:13:11 <pingou> there is still few outstanding issues, but we're slowly
getting there :)
18:13:12 <nirik> any other application news from the last week or upcoming?
18:13:33 <nirik> pingou: one I noticed (need to file a ticket on) is that the email
doesn't contain all the info for changes.
18:13:43 * pingou building pkgdb-cli 2.2
18:13:59 <nirik> ie, email has:
18:14:01 <nirik> user: kevin set acl: approveacls of package: incron from: Awaiting
Review to: Approved on branch: master
18:14:07 <pingou> nirik: someone also asked why we still send email, the original
idea being to rely on FMN
18:14:15 <nirik> but doesn't say _who_ I approved acls for
18:14:25 <pingou> nirik: I'll fix this, thanks
18:14:37 <nirik> well, I'd still like the scm-commits cc
18:14:41 <nirik> it's nice as a record.
18:14:45 <nirik> but I guess we have datanommer
18:14:58 <pingou> threebean: could we create a fake account on FMN?
18:15:00 <nirik> so perhaps we could drop it.
18:15:12 <threebean> pingou: if you can create a fake account in fas, then yes.
18:15:22 <pingou> nirik: would that be a solution?
18:15:39 <abadger1999> +1 fake fas account for scm-commits
18:15:39 <nirik> we could... just mark it 'bot' so it doesn't allow
18:15:41 <pingou> I guess one admin of the list would have to do i :)
18:15:47 <pingou> it*
18:16:15 <nirik> right now that list allows *(a)fedoraproject.org I think, so we would
need to moderate password emails or just make it direct in the db
18:16:57 <nirik> anyhow, we don't need to decide this now, we can figure it
18:17:25 <nirik> relrod: have you had a chance to work on the process git
requests/epel7 scripts? where are we with those?
18:17:30 * Daredel is late
18:17:41 * nirik waves to Daredel
18:17:45 <relrod> nirik: I have a patch started for those, it still needs work
18:18:01 <relrod> https://gist.github.com/CodeBlock/b6f9020a3f129a29f5c8
is what I
have so far.
18:18:32 <nirik> ok. would be good to get those soon... the spice^Wnew packages must
18:19:06 <relrod> I have some questions for pingou regarding it - will ping after
18:19:08 <nirik> #info a few pkgdb2 issues outstanding, working on them
18:19:13 <nirik> cool. thanks.
18:19:20 <nirik> anything else application wise?
18:19:31 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
18:19:42 <nirik> lets see... on the sysadmin side...
18:19:54 <nirik> #info reinstalled all our old blade servers as koji buildhw
18:20:10 <nirik> (one of them is hosed, but I put in a ticket to have someone on
site pull it out and try and reset it)
18:20:31 <pingou> relrod: me or limburgher
18:21:07 <nirik> I updated all stg hosts and rebooted them monday, but there's
another kernel update out soon I suspect, so holding off on updating production...
18:21:11 <nirik> but we might do it next week.
18:21:16 <relrod> pingou: you ;)
18:21:42 <nirik> #info reinstalled fas02 as x86_64 with more memory
18:21:53 <nirik> (hopefully this fixes some fasClient run timeouts we have been
18:22:11 <pingou> nirik: nice :)
18:22:27 <nirik> smooge and I will be heading out to our main datacenter next month
or month after (not fully scheduled yet)
18:23:05 <nirik> #topic nagios/alerts recap
18:23:17 <nirik> I have a ugly url...
18:23:20 <nirik> does this work for folks:
18:23:30 <pingou> http://is.gd/1i0Eqe
18:23:44 <nirik> those are the top 50 alert producers in the last week.
18:23:53 <smooge> Plans are to rebuild the cloud.. arm the illudium Q-36 explosive
space modulator.. and figure out quantum mechanics
18:23:55 <nirik> most of them can be explained.
18:24:14 <nirik> retrace should get fixed by new machines we have on order.
18:24:32 <nirik> the telia01 ones are just network issues. ;(
18:24:48 <threebean> the "check fedmsg consumers" ones keep hitting socket
timeout. not sure why, but I increased the timeout today to see if it makes a
18:24:59 <nirik> the tummy01 ones at the bottom are a tummy01 network outage that
was pretty short
18:25:19 <nirik> the fas02 ones hopefully are solved by my repaving it.
18:25:34 <nirik> the pkgdb ones are related to the pkgdb2 roll out
18:26:05 <nirik> so, hopefully next week we look a good deal better. ;)
18:26:50 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
18:26:52 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
18:27:00 <nirik> anyone have upcoming items they would like to note or schedule?
18:27:10 <nirik> #info our bodhi2/taskotron fad is coming up!
18:27:15 <pingou> \ó/
18:27:16 <threebean> :)
18:27:24 <nirik> anything we need to discuss on it? or are we pretty set ?
18:27:48 <nirik> if we have flight arival times I can see about trying to pick up
folks at the airport?
18:28:23 <lmacken> I can do some pickups on sunday, but I won't have a car on
18:28:27 <threebean> yeah, the flight arrival times on the wiki should be correct
18:29:04 <lmacken> as far as logistics, I think we're good. Hopefully everyone
will have a dev environment setup ahead of time :)
18:29:20 <bwood09> In other news, the fedorahosted guidelines I sent out a week or
two ago are almost finished with the revisions; should I pass it around another time? If
not, what should I do next?
18:29:42 <pingou> gather statistics :)
18:29:50 <nirik> ok, I can look at the times and see when I might be able to pick up
folks. I think tflink also said he could pick up some people.
18:30:23 <nirik> bwood09: yeah, some stats might be good... and/or you could run it
by the list again for a final lookover.
18:30:43 <bwood09> Define stats. What specifically should I collect?
18:31:01 <bwood09> I'll do the stats and final look simultaneously.
18:31:45 <pingou> bwood09: how many projects are concerned by the rules you're
18:31:48 <nirik> bwood09: well, how many projects would be affected, etc?
18:31:59 <tflink> yeah, I'm willing and able to do airport pickups
18:32:11 <pingou> bwood09: how many projects have not updated their trac index page,
do not use their git, their mailing list...
18:32:14 <bwood09> Got it. Should I start taking a look at implementation as well?
18:32:33 <bwood09> Making a plan, etc
18:33:03 <nirik> sure. ;)
18:33:31 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:33:56 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor? questions, comments, ideas,
favorate soft drink?
18:34:38 <bwood09> Raspberry Coca Cola is REALLY goof
18:34:41 <bwood09> Good*
18:34:52 * nirik hasn't even seen that before.
18:35:00 <threebean> yeah. that's news :P
18:35:06 <pingou> Ii
18:35:08 <pingou> Oo
18:35:16 <bwood09> From those freestyle machines in Firehouse and
18:35:42 <Daredel> apprentice here, still trying to familiarize with all the
18:35:56 <nirik> bwood09: will keep an eye out, but I haven't ever seen it here.
18:36:21 <ootbro> Daredel: I'm in the same boat, which is why I decided to go
with the FP landscape :)
18:37:25 <nirik> yeah, there's a lot to take in. ;)
18:38:10 <mhaynes> Yeah, I have a lot to read myself. So much I don't know about
things at the moment.
18:38:20 <Daredel> not english native speaker, so not sure what do u refer with
18:38:52 <pingou> Fedora Project
18:38:56 <nirik> Daredel: ootbro is going to work on a diagram/map/overview of
fedora infrastructure setup
18:38:56 <ootbro> Daredel: no problem.... "FP landscape" is the
18:39:12 <Daredel> ohhh
18:39:15 <Daredel> nice
18:39:45 <Daredel> well i'm lookig for things to work on. so i can try to help
18:39:46 <ootbro> I'm still trying to learn the landscape and I figure this will
help all the newbies get up to speed
18:40:56 <Daredel> i have looked at the easyfix but don't feel like prepared
enough to solve one
18:41:05 <bwood09> Well, I just got a phone call from Nintendo
18:41:13 <bwood09> I'm an official Wii U developer now
18:41:15 <ootbro> DareDel: look for my e-mail on the mailing list -- it'll have
my e-mail address for direct contact
18:41:16 <bwood09> So that's fun
18:41:20 <nirik> bwood09: alright. ;)
18:41:22 <mhaynes> Awesome bwood
18:41:26 <ootbro> bwood09: congrats :D
18:41:49 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute... and we can all
continue over in #fedora-admin, #fedora-noc and #fedora-apps.
18:42:38 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone!
18:42:41 <nirik> #endmeeting