Time: 3 PM EDT (19:00 UTC) Date: 2009-10-07 Location: #fedora-fad
Thanks for responses from Jared, Jeff, and Paul. It looks like this coming Tuesday at 3 PM EDT is the best time to meet.
I'm hoping we can meet briefly for the next three weeks at this time to have some real time conversations about getting ready for the event. So far we've had some good conversations on the list about what version of Asterisk we'll be using so hopefully we can get that sorted out soon.
Any other things like this that we can discuss and complete in advance will go a long way towards giving us the best shot of coming out of the FAD with the best working configuration possible!
To get prepared I've been reading the O'Reilly Asterisk book which then led me to wonder what our own setup looks like. This resulted in me joining the Fedora sysadmin group. So I was glad to have more time to get familiar with Fedora's infrastructure environment and get setup things like this out of the way now instead of wasting half of the first day of the FAD trying to get set up.
If there are other things that we should all be thinking about, please send them to the list or add them to the wiki page. I also think we need to come up with a fun
Thanks and talk to you on Tuesday, John
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 04:21:43PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
Time: 3 PM EDT (19:00 UTC) Date: 2009-10-07
^^ This Tuesday is 2009-10-06... just confirming.
Location: #fedora-fad
Thanks for responses from Jared, Jeff, and Paul. It looks like this coming Tuesday at 3 PM EDT is the best time to meet.
I'm hoping we can meet briefly for the next three weeks at this time to have some real time conversations about getting ready for the event. So far we've had some good conversations on the list about what version of Asterisk we'll be using so hopefully we can get that sorted out soon.
Any other things like this that we can discuss and complete in advance will go a long way towards giving us the best shot of coming out of the FAD with the best working configuration possible!
Thanks for pointing this out John -- I probably have the most to learn out of everyone attending! The more we can get out of the way before we get together, the more effective we can be starting on Friday.
To get prepared I've been reading the O'Reilly Asterisk book which then led me to wonder what our own setup looks like. This resulted in me joining the Fedora sysadmin group. So I was glad to have more time to get familiar with Fedora's infrastructure environment and get setup things like this out of the way now instead of wasting half of the first day of the FAD trying to get set up.
John, Jared -- what are the chapters you'd most recommend? I have the 2nd ed. Asterisk book and am willing to read over the next few weeks.
If there are other things that we should all be thinking about, please send them to the list or add them to the wiki page. I also think we need to come up with a fun
...?
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 04:21:43PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
Time: 3 PM EDT (19:00 UTC) Date: 2009-10-07
^^ This Tuesday is 2009-10-06... just confirming.
This is several hours from now... Just reminding people that are interested :)
-Mike
Mike McGrath said the following on 10/06/2009 07:29 AM Pacific Time:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 04:21:43PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
Time: 3 PM EDT (19:00 UTC) Date: 2009-10-07
^^ This Tuesday is 2009-10-06... just confirming.
This is several hours from now... Just reminding people that are interested :)
-Mike
Thanks Mike.
Yes it is today at 3 PM EDT on #fedora-fad
I've had a semi-personal-emergency come up today so I might not be able to make the meeting that I scheduled, but if all goes better than I expected I hope to be there. :)
But please meet whether I am there or not!
The purpose/agenda I had in mind for today was: 1) Nail down the package version of Asterisk that we will use at the FAD and a canonical place to download it from 2) Confirm the underlying version of the OS we plan to run #1 on 3) Suggest that everyone set up and configure a test environment running #1 and #2 4) From Jared or others--what are the recommended chapters we should read and work through in advance from the Asterisk book? --suggestions for complete newbies like me? --suggestions that target good background for understanding conferencing configuration, streaming and recording? --links to other worthwhile things to read? 5) How can we make sure we efficiently work the outstanding FedoraTalk tickets? --each person own one or a couple? --tackle each one together? --<insert your suggestion> 6) Keep meeting at this time for the next two weeks? 7) <insert your suggestion>
Thanks, John
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 08:42:05 -0700, John Poelstra poelstra@redhat.com wrote:
Yes it is today at 3 PM EDT on #fedora-fad
I'll probably miss the meeting, but might make the tail end of it. I'll be recording it though to review.
- Nail down the package version of Asterisk that we will use at the
FAD and a canonical place to download it from
And what packages should get installed. I suspect that a lot of them aren't necessary for this project.
- Confirm the underlying version of the OS we plan to run #1 on
- Suggest that everyone set up and configure a test environment
running #1 and #2
Some recommendations on the configuration would be nice as well. A lot of config files are installed by default that aren't needed for a minimal system and I am not sure if they are all safe to leave as is. So it would be nice to know which ones are needed and which should get modified.
I also have a question, probably for Jeff. Does dahdi 2.2 work on 2.6.31 kernels? Specically if I rebuild the atrpms dahdi-linux package on F12 is it likely to work? (I don't want to upgrade my last F11 machine to F12 if it is going to break being able to use my normal phones in the house.)
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to wrote:
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 08:42:05 -0700, John Poelstra poelstra@redhat.com wrote:
Yes it is today at 3 PM EDT on #fedora-fad
I'll probably miss the meeting, but might make the tail end of it. I'll be recording it though to review.
- Nail down the package version of Asterisk that we will use at the
FAD and a canonical place to download it from
And what packages should get installed. I suspect that a lot of them aren't necessary for this project.
To start with you'll just need the base asterisk package.
- Confirm the underlying version of the OS we plan to run #1 on
- Suggest that everyone set up and configure a test environment
running #1 and #2
Some recommendations on the configuration would be nice as well. A lot of config files are installed by default that aren't needed for a minimal system and I am not sure if they are all safe to leave as is. So it would be nice to know which ones are needed and which should get modified.
To get started you can just leave them as is. We'll want to work on turning off all the unnecessary services as part of what we do.
I also have a question, probably for Jeff. Does dahdi 2.2 work on 2.6.31 kernels? Specically if I rebuild the atrpms dahdi-linux package on F12 is it likely to work? (I don't want to upgrade my last F11 machine to F12 if it is going to break being able to use my normal phones in the house.)
I have no idea. I'd imagine that it is, but I don't use dahdi for anything right now. I'd almost drop any dahdi support from the Asterisk RPMs but I don't want to deal with the bugzilla fallout from people requesting that it be put back in. One of these days I have a TDM400 card at home that I'm going to try and get working again.
I should mention that I'll be right in the middle of a class when this meeting takes place.
Darren VanBuren ------------------------- Sent from my iPod
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On Oct 6, 2009, at 9:05, Jeffrey Ollie jeff@ocjtech.us wrote:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to wrote:
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 08:42:05 -0700, John Poelstra poelstra@redhat.com wrote:
Yes it is today at 3 PM EDT on #fedora-fad
I'll probably miss the meeting, but might make the tail end of it. I'll be recording it though to review.
- Nail down the package version of Asterisk that we will use at the
FAD and a canonical place to download it from
And what packages should get installed. I suspect that a lot of them aren't necessary for this project.
To start with you'll just need the base asterisk package.
- Confirm the underlying version of the OS we plan to run #1 on
- Suggest that everyone set up and configure a test environment
running #1 and #2
Some recommendations on the configuration would be nice as well. A lot of config files are installed by default that aren't needed for a minimal system and I am not sure if they are all safe to leave as is. So it would be nice to know which ones are needed and which should get modified.
To get started you can just leave them as is. We'll want to work on turning off all the unnecessary services as part of what we do.
I also have a question, probably for Jeff. Does dahdi 2.2 work on 2.6.31 kernels? Specically if I rebuild the atrpms dahdi-linux package on F12 is it likely to work? (I don't want to upgrade my last F11 machine to F12 if it is going to break being able to use my normal phones in the house.)
I have no idea. I'd imagine that it is, but I don't use dahdi for anything right now. I'd almost drop any dahdi support from the Asterisk RPMs but I don't want to deal with the bugzilla fallout from people requesting that it be put back in. One of these days I have a TDM400 card at home that I'm going to try and get working again.
-- Jeff Ollie
Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Bruno Wolff III said the following on 10/06/2009 08:59 AM Pacific Time:
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 08:42:05 -0700, John Poelstra poelstra@redhat.com wrote:
Yes it is today at 3 PM EDT on #fedora-fad
I'll probably miss the meeting, but might make the tail end of it. I'll be recording it though to review.
- Nail down the package version of Asterisk that we will use at the
FAD and a canonical place to download it from
And what packages should get installed. I suspect that a lot of them aren't necessary for this project.
- Confirm the underlying version of the OS we plan to run #1 on
- Suggest that everyone set up and configure a test environment
running #1 and #2
Some recommendations on the configuration would be nice as well. A lot of config files are installed by default that aren't needed for a minimal system and I am not sure if they are all safe to leave as is. So it would be nice to know which ones are needed and which should get modified.
Should we be thinking then in terms of an SOP documenting the configuration and building Asterisk or is this done implicitly with puppet?
McGrath--are there examples for other applications we could follow when doing this for Asterisk?
Thanks, John
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, John Poelstra wrote:
Bruno Wolff III said the following on 10/06/2009 08:59 AM Pacific Time:
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 08:42:05 -0700, John Poelstra poelstra@redhat.com wrote:
Yes it is today at 3 PM EDT on #fedora-fad
I'll probably miss the meeting, but might make the tail end of it. I'll be recording it though to review.
- Nail down the package version of Asterisk that we will use at the
FAD and a canonical place to download it from
And what packages should get installed. I suspect that a lot of them aren't necessary for this project.
- Confirm the underlying version of the OS we plan to run #1 on
- Suggest that everyone set up and configure a test environment
running #1 and #2
Some recommendations on the configuration would be nice as well. A lot of config files are installed by default that aren't needed for a minimal system and I am not sure if they are all safe to leave as is. So it would be nice to know which ones are needed and which should get modified.
Should we be thinking then in terms of an SOP documenting the configuration and building Asterisk or is this done implicitly with puppet?
Generally the SOP is for maintenance and common problems, you wouldn't put one together for installation. The "installation" part of it is all done in puppet.
McGrath--are there examples for other applications we could follow when doing this for Asterisk?
Hmm. I'd guess any application based SOP would be a good start. The transifex one is good:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Translations_Infrastructure_SOP
I'd guess just remember the SOP is targeted towards the Infrastructure group and possibly some involved indirectly with Infrastructure (Like the content hosting SOP)
I know we're going to be looking to add things like recording (which we have now but is too complicated to use) and the webcasting stuff. Any end user docs should be added to the http://talk.fedoraproject.org/ site where it can be properly translated, etc.
-Mike
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:11:44PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, John Poelstra wrote:
Bruno Wolff III said the following on 10/06/2009 08:59 AM Pacific Time:
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 08:42:05 -0700, John Poelstra poelstra@redhat.com wrote:
Yes it is today at 3 PM EDT on #fedora-fad
I'll probably miss the meeting, but might make the tail end of it. I'll be recording it though to review.
- Nail down the package version of Asterisk that we will use at the
FAD and a canonical place to download it from
And what packages should get installed. I suspect that a lot of them aren't necessary for this project.
- Confirm the underlying version of the OS we plan to run #1 on
- Suggest that everyone set up and configure a test environment
running #1 and #2
Some recommendations on the configuration would be nice as well. A lot of config files are installed by default that aren't needed for a minimal system and I am not sure if they are all safe to leave as is. So it would be nice to know which ones are needed and which should get modified.
Should we be thinking then in terms of an SOP documenting the configuration and building Asterisk or is this done implicitly with puppet?
Generally the SOP is for maintenance and common problems, you wouldn't put one together for installation. The "installation" part of it is all done in puppet.
McGrath--are there examples for other applications we could follow when doing this for Asterisk?
Hmm. I'd guess any application based SOP would be a good start. The transifex one is good:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Translations_Infrastructure_SOP
I'd guess just remember the SOP is targeted towards the Infrastructure group and possibly some involved indirectly with Infrastructure (Like the content hosting SOP)
I know we're going to be looking to add things like recording (which we have now but is too complicated to use) and the webcasting stuff. Any end user docs should be added to the http://talk.fedoraproject.org/ site where it can be properly translated, etc.
To wit: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1723
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 08:42:05AM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
Mike McGrath said the following on 10/06/2009 07:29 AM Pacific Time:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 04:21:43PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
Time: 3 PM EDT (19:00 UTC) Date: 2009-10-07
^^ This Tuesday is 2009-10-06... just confirming.
This is several hours from now... Just reminding people that are interested :)
-Mike
Thanks Mike.
Yes it is today at 3 PM EDT on #fedora-fad
I've had a semi-personal-emergency come up today so I might not be able to make the meeting that I scheduled, but if all goes better than I expected I hope to be there. :)
But please meet whether I am there or not!
The purpose/agenda I had in mind for today was:
- Nail down the package version of Asterisk that we will use at the
FAD and a canonical place to download it from 2) Confirm the underlying version of the OS we plan to run #1 on 3) Suggest that everyone set up and configure a test environment running #1 and #2 4) From Jared or others--what are the recommended chapters we should read and work through in advance from the Asterisk book? --suggestions for complete newbies like me? --suggestions that target good background for understanding conferencing configuration, streaming and recording? --links to other worthwhile things to read? 5) How can we make sure we efficiently work the outstanding FedoraTalk tickets? --each person own one or a couple? --tackle each one together? --<insert your suggestion> 6) Keep meeting at this time for the next two weeks? 7) <insert your suggestion>
I'll be there, and can run the agenda if you can't, John.
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