#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-11-07)
Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:22 UTC. The full logs are available at
* welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:23)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 19:02:04)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:09:09)
* coprs is announced. Work will be ongoing to move it to a more
standard application setup (nirik, 19:11:48)
* we are go for release next tuesday of F20beta (nirik, 19:21:01)
* our next freeze will start on 2013-11-26 (nirik, 19:21:37)
* Sysadmin tasks/Discussion (nirik, 19:23:33)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:26:18)
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
* Open Floor (nirik, 19:30:05)
Meeting ended at 19:34:08 UTC.
Action Items, by person
People Present (lines said)
* nirik (71)
* mirek (21)
* anshprat (14)
* frankieonuonga (13)
* abadger1999 (11)
* zodbot (4)
* croberts (4)
* ausmarton (3)
* edgar_ (2)
* smooge (1)
* robyduck (1)
* relrod (1)
* puiterwijk (0)
* lmacken (0)
* threebean (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* pingou (0)
* dgilmore (0)
19:00:22 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-11-07)
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19:00:23 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
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19:00:23 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all
19:00:23 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch
threebean pingou puiterwijk
19:00:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou
puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
19:00:34 * frankieonuonga is here
19:00:46 * relrod here
19:01:00 * mirek here
19:01:12 * ausmarton here
19:01:13 * abadger1999 here
19:01:24 * anshprat here
19:01:57 <nirik> morning everyone.
19:02:04 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
19:02:09 <frankieonuonga> morning to you
19:02:17 <nirik> any new folks? or apprentices with questions or comments?
19:02:22 <frankieonuonga> it is however night time for me in nbi
19:02:31 <nirik> I'll note that I have been slow to send out the monthly
apprentice email. Will send later today.
19:02:44 <anshprat> I am done with askbot stg , now working on packaging . Its done
and tested on epel
19:02:53 <anshprat> need to do it on fedora / rawhide
19:03:11 <mirek> I have question, can I do something as apprentice in cloud?
19:03:27 <anshprat> I am kinda hardpressed for time these days, so any apprentice
help would be great..
19:03:33 <nirik> anshprat: cool. thanks for working on it. ;)
19:03:43 <mirek> I have openstack workshop done, so I thought that I can do some
small task in cloud
19:03:44 <nirik> mirek: not sure what you mean? what sort of thing?
19:03:52 <nirik> ah, work on the cloud itself?
19:04:07 <mirek> yes
19:04:17 <ausmarton> I need help in picking a task.
19:04:47 <anshprat> ausmarton: wanna help me out? :D
19:05:15 <ausmarton> yeah, I think I can.
19:05:23 <anshprat> maybe we should do something like pair programming in
apprenticeship as well :)
19:05:35 <anshprat> ausmarton: great, thanks, ping you after meeting in
19:05:35 <nirik> mirek: well, I need to figure out how to setup access better.
There's several people interested in helping with cloud stuff. Also, not clear what
tasks we need done right now, but we could try and make a list. ;) so, yes, help welcome,
just need to organize it more.
19:07:02 <mirek> nirik: I definitelly should be able to add and remove volumes,
which otherwise you have to do :)
19:07:34 <nirik> mirek: yeah, the way we have things setup thats a task done by root
on lockbox01 tho...
19:07:48 <nirik> so we need to figure out how to setup access better
19:08:19 <nirik> but I can try and work on that...
19:08:29 <mirek> nirik: no problem, no rush. I can file tickets as well. But if you
figure somthing I can off load some work from you.
19:08:47 <nirik> yeah, thanks much.
19:09:09 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
19:09:18 <nirik> any applications news/status/plans?
19:10:11 <mirek> Copr is publicly announced, and open to everybody with FAS account.
And officially supported. Well supported just by me. So I want to start worki
19:10:12 <mirek> ng on flipping it to standard infra component
19:10:37 <nirik> cool. How much uptake have you seen? I've seen builders being
19:11:00 * robyduck late, sorry
19:11:23 <nirik> no worries.
19:11:32 <mirek> nirik: it is iddling right now
19:11:48 <nirik> #info coprs is announced. Work will be ongoing to move it to a more
standard application setup
19:12:18 <mirek> but several projects and user has appear in last few hours, so I
will watch the trend
19:12:21 <nirik> There's been some work on mailman3/hyperkitty... we remade the
staging instance today, so hopefully we are close now to being able to do a prod
19:12:43 <nirik> mirek: yeah, will be good to see how popular it is. Might also do a
blog post or a devel-announce post on it?
19:13:01 <mirek> I want to ask - can I have postgresdb on standard fedora server?
19:13:35 <mirek> nirik: I sent it just to devel. I want to make bigger rush, once we
accept it as part of infrastructure
19:14:12 <nirik> mirek: currently we have 1 large pgsql server that all the various
applications use. We don't do db's on application servers usually.
19:14:16 <nirik> sounds reasonable.
19:14:36 <mirek> also I would like to have some nicer domain. probably cnamed to
current one, is it possible
19:15:09 <mirek> copr have in db, just names of projects and small data for each
build, so that db is quite small. and will be small.
19:15:11 <nirik> in infra we were trying to move apps to use
'apps.fedoraproject.org/appname' but some aren't yet
19:15:37 <nirik> and yeah we could do another domain (if it's available), but we
have to go thru legal and such
19:16:18 <mirek> I meant somethin under fedoraproject.org
19:16:20 * nirik guesses most of the other application folks are not present today. :)
19:16:26 <mirek> but ok, I will try to move it to apps
19:16:27 <nirik> ah, yeah, we can do that...
19:16:41 <nirik> we never decided if it was going to be a hard rule or not.
19:16:57 <nirik> one advantage is that if you login one place you could share the
auth cookie for another app
19:17:15 <anshprat> yeah, pretty quiet in here today!
19:17:23 <mirek> and db... from what I seen that db stuff is indepenent from
application. all apps have cname for its db server, even if it is still same box
19:17:44 <mirek> so I assumed that we can move db in one step and app in another
19:17:44 <nirik> yep. we talked about splitting them out someday, but haven't.
19:18:05 <nirik> I still need to look at replication setups and see if we can do
19:18:48 <nirik> any other application news?
19:18:52 <abadger1999> yeah -- with openid, single sign on shouldn't depend on
being under apps.fp.o anymore
19:18:57 <nirik> mirek: oh, is there any movement on koji integration yet?
19:19:03 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah.
19:19:46 <abadger1999> Sortof a non-news from me
19:19:58 <mirek> nirik: little - mclean and james are working on haveing namespaces
in koji. I did not start working on my parts yet, as I have still lots of work on this
19:19:58 <abadger1999> I have a ton of non-infra/non-coding work right now
19:20:14 <abadger1999> scls and fesco and new env and stack working group.
19:20:16 <nirik> mirek: understandable.
19:20:27 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah. ;(
19:20:31 <abadger1999> If anyone wants to help out with python-fedora or such, just
let me know.
19:20:47 <nirik> Oh, one thing to note... well, several related things:
19:20:54 <anshprat> abadger1999: what all things in there?
19:21:01 <nirik> #info we are go for release next tuesday of F20beta
19:21:02 <abadger1999> I'll make time to get you up to speed on making a
release/outstanding issues so I'm not a single point of failure.
19:21:37 <nirik> #info our next freeze will start on 2013-11-26
19:21:49 <nirik> so, not much time unfrozen.
19:21:53 <edgar_> What need to be done in python-fedora?
19:21:57 <abadger1999> anshprat: For python-fedora right now, we have an outstanding
issue about how to integrate otp support.
19:22:04 <nirik> would be good to get ready for the unfreeze and land things we want
19:22:30 <abadger1999> anshprat: we also have an outstanding issue about newer flask
changing what can be stored in sessions.
19:22:42 <abadger1999> Those two things need to be solved and then a new release
19:22:55 <edgar_> ok
19:22:59 <abadger1999> Talk to me in #fedora-apps after the meeting and I'll
link you to the existing bugs and such.
19:23:08 <anshprat> abadger1999: alright
19:23:24 <nirik> cool. ;)
19:23:33 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin tasks/Discussion
19:23:43 <nirik> Not too much on the sysadmin side...
19:23:54 <nirik> fixed our volume issues on the openstack cloud finally.
19:24:23 <nirik> Found out that when you remove a volume it also dd's /dev/zero
to it... which caused some problems when I nuked a 200GB volume.
19:24:33 <mirek> :)
19:24:43 <nirik> Got our new blade server finally up and happy with iscsi...
19:24:58 <nirik> Built a buildvm on it and ran some benchmarks.
19:24:58 <mirek> where some problems = half of the cloud goes down
19:25:14 <nirik> mirek: yeah. apparently they made it a config option in newer
19:25:15 * croberts waves
19:25:20 <croberts> sorry im late
19:25:24 <nirik> no problems
19:25:55 <nirik> nothing else too exciting to report on the sysadmin side. The usual
new mailing lists, hosted projects, etc etc.
19:26:18 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
19:26:18 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
19:26:29 <nirik> anything upcoming folks would like to schedule or note?
19:27:00 <croberts> i am going to ask for updates and assign myself to the wiki
tickets you listed nirik: so i apolgize up front for the mailing list spam
19:27:07 <croberts> reflecting those changes
19:27:15 <nirik> croberts: no problem.
19:27:31 * nirik gets also bcc'ed on any infrastructure tickets changes. I'm used
to lots of emails.
19:28:08 <anshprat> nirik: which list gets *all* the infra tickets mail? I would
like to get a daily digest I guess..
19:28:28 <smooge> are we looking at another week of freeze?
19:28:31 <nirik> anshprat: there's not one. It depends on components where they
19:28:43 <nirik> anshprat: if you want I can add you to bcc tho
19:28:51 <nirik> smooge: nope. Beta release on tuesday.
19:28:59 <anshprat> nirik: sure, that should be great, thanks
19:30:05 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:30:11 <nirik> anything anyone has for open floor?
19:30:19 <nirik> questions, comments, ideas, pie recipes?
19:30:43 <frankieonuonga> yeah…I am updating search wiki page and doing an email
19:30:50 <nirik> great.
19:30:57 <frankieonuonga> have two guys helping so far which is great
19:31:04 <nirik> frankieonuonga: ping me after the wiki page update and I can give
19:31:20 <frankieonuonga> nirik: thank you
19:31:23 <frankieonuonga> :-)
19:31:25 <frankieonuonga> i will
19:31:29 <nirik> great.
19:31:33 <anshprat> frankieonuonga: I should be able to pitch in from this month end
19:31:53 <frankieonuonga> anshprat: thank you
19:31:57 <frankieonuonga> that would be great
19:32:06 <frankieonuonga> remember this is not mine..it is for all of us
19:32:11 <anshprat> :)
19:32:18 <frankieonuonga> no boss if you ask me
19:32:23 <frankieonuonga> :-)
19:32:57 <nirik> cool.
19:33:07 <nirik> anything else from anyone? if not will close out in a minute.
19:34:05 <nirik> Cool. Thanks for coming everyone!
19:34:08 <nirik> #endmeeting