#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-10-03)
Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at
* welcome to all and to all a welcome (nirik, 19:00:01)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:02:13)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:07:43)
was deployed (nirik,
* Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:16:37)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:25:03)
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
* Open Floor (nirik, 19:26:31)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4020
particular. Are those still needing things? or done? (nirik,
Meeting ended at 19:40:33 UTC.
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People Present (lines said)
* nirik (88)
* croberts (26)
* smooge (14)
* oddshocks (7)
* abadger1999 (5)
* mirek (5)
* zodbot (4)
* adimania (2)
* handsome_pirate (2)
* robyduck (1)
* ausmarton (1)
* kushalkhandelwal (1)
* relrod (1)
* dgilmore (1)
* puiterwijk (0)
* lmacken (0)
* threebean (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* pingou (0)
19:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-10-03)
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19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
19:00:01 <nirik> #topic welcome to all and to all a welcome
19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch
threebean pingou puiterwijk
19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou
puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
19:00:08 <abadger1999> hola
19:00:15 <adimania> Hi
19:00:31 <kushalkhandelwal> Hey
19:00:41 <croberts> hi
19:00:51 <dgilmore> hola, I will be in and out, I have a parent teacher meeting in
19:00:58 * mirek is here
19:01:26 * relrod here
19:01:55 * robyduck in
19:02:05 <nirik> welcome everyone.
19:02:13 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
19:02:21 <nirik> any new folks want to introduce themselves?
19:02:27 <nirik> or apprentices with questions or comments?
19:02:57 <croberts> only thing i had i asked you in the noc channel
19:02:57 * ausmarton is here
19:03:08 <croberts> was worried about getting the email turned in time :)
19:03:19 <croberts> on*
19:03:44 <nirik> no worries. Yeah, for any apprentices that got my october status
email, do get a reply to me before about the 14th. ;)
19:03:59 <mirek> I have question - if I want to learn how to deploy some app as
ordinary application, where should I start? I there some docs? Or what app is good
example? Are those setup stored in ansible.git as well?
19:04:00 <nirik> Thats when I will prune out inactive folks (after I get back)
19:04:19 <mirek> I tried to look on how is setup fpaste, but could not find it
19:04:28 <nirik> mirek: good question. ;) I don't know that we have much in the
way of generic docs...
19:04:35 <nirik> much of our setup is still in puppet.
19:04:48 <croberts> nirik: i do have a question but i will for open floor
19:04:54 <nirik> a good one to look at in ansible might be nuancier ?
19:05:02 <nirik> we just deployed that one, so it's mostly in ansible.
19:05:08 <croberts> its about the magazine
19:05:25 <nirik> however, since our proxies are still in puppet, the proxy config
for it is still in puppet as well...
19:05:33 <nirik> croberts: ok.
19:06:07 <nirik> mirek: does that help any?
19:06:15 <mirek> ok, I will check nuancier, thx
19:06:45 <nirik> mirek: the puppet repo is also on lockbox... 'git clone
19:07:06 <nirik> cool.
19:07:29 <nirik> any other intros or general questions? if not, moving on...
19:07:43 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
19:07:51 <nirik> any application news or plans or discussion?
19:07:56 <mirek> status of copr - still no disk space, still no hosting. the
contacts are unresponsive (although I'm asking every day). I would like to go way:
deploy -fe and -be as ordinary applicaton, leave just builders in cloud. and try to merge
disk spaces from cloud nodes and export it to backend. If this setup will be problematic
(due network setup) we can keep backup in cloud as well, which should be little bit
19:08:21 <nirik> #info https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/
19:08:59 <nirik> mirek: I dropped the ball there, was going to ping my cloud
contact, but forgot. I can do so after the meeting.
19:11:08 * nirik gets a call. just a sec.
19:12:20 <nirik> ok, any other application side news?
19:12:37 <nirik> abadger1999: were you going to send out a fun email about
python-fedora and 2fa?
19:13:02 <abadger1999> nirik: yeah - I was -- I've got it 3/4 written but keep
getting dragged back into scls.
19:13:13 <abadger1999> I'll try to just finish that off tomorrow and send it.
19:13:15 <nirik> yeah, nasty votex. ;(
19:13:18 <nirik> no worries.
19:13:33 * abadger1999 hopes to talk briefly with you and dgilmore about scls later
19:13:48 <smooge> kerosene and matches
19:13:59 <abadger1999> and then think about other stuff over the weekend :-)
19:14:36 <nirik> :)
19:14:44 <nirik> ok, if no other apps news moving on...
19:15:01 <nirik> Oh, this might fall under apps I guess...
19:15:17 <smooge> octoberfest?
19:15:31 <nirik> a while back I got pinged by bugzilla folks to mention the change
they were doing around components to fedora lists, etc (which I did)
19:15:57 <nirik> I mentioned to them in passing some of our wants for bz... they are
open to discussion and asked me to file bugs about then.
19:15:58 <nirik> them.
19:16:06 <nirik> so, I plan on doing that when I get back most likely.
19:16:19 <nirik> Hopefully we can talk them into doing the stuff we want. :)
19:16:37 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
19:16:43 <nirik> ok, on the sysadmin side...
19:16:53 <nirik> we just did a mass reboot and update cycle, went ok.
19:17:02 <nirik> I also migrated our lookaside cache to netapp space.
19:17:08 <nirik> and we moved some virtual instances around.
19:17:30 <nirik> that reminds me, I need to file a easyfix monitoring ticket... we
need to check parents on all our phx2 guests.
19:17:45 * adimania notes
19:18:44 <nirik> oh, I also disabled funcd. We are no longer using it. ;)
19:19:20 <nirik> smooge: any other upcoming or recent items you can think of?
19:19:22 * smooge plays the bagpipes
19:19:41 <smooge> 1) virthost15 was stood up. virthost01/02 were cleaned
19:20:00 <smooge> 2) Fedora PPC hardware ran into a major problem
19:20:02 <nirik> well, 01/03...
19:20:35 <smooge> 3) Time to audit what hardware we have and work out which ones we
want to replace next year
19:20:58 <nirik> yeah.
19:21:07 <nirik> I def want to decomission virthost01/03
19:21:10 * handsome_pirate waves
19:21:22 * handsome_pirate wonders how he could get old hw
19:21:40 <smooge> I was thinking of using them for testing hardware for ansible low
level stuff for a bit
19:22:07 <nirik> handsome_pirate: I think they usually go to recycle back to ibm or
spare parts... we don't really have a way to give them to people that I know of. ;(
19:22:12 <smooge> handsome_pirate, old hardware goes to IT to be marked off by
beancounters and then recycle
19:22:32 <smooge> what nirik typed faster
19:23:28 <nirik> we have a motherboard replacement in arm04 later today too.
Hopefully that will go well.
19:23:36 <nirik> nothing else too exciting I can think of.
19:23:41 <smooge> 4) ... stuff ...
19:23:56 <smooge> 5) take all of stuff and write budgets!
19:24:21 <nirik> we really need to get our new bladecenter working. ;) (we have it
on line and can get to mgmt on it now, just a matter of getting it working for the
19:25:03 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
19:25:03 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
19:25:11 * oddshocks tiptoes in after staring at #fedora-apps for the past 25 minutes
19:25:13 <nirik> any upcoming items folks would like to schedule or note?
19:25:20 <nirik> welcome oddshocks. ;)
19:25:32 <oddshocks> :)
19:25:51 <smooge> not for me
19:26:14 <nirik> I'll note that I am out starting tomorrow and back monday the
14th. ;) Please don't expect too much in the way of replies from me while I am gone.
19:26:31 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:26:36 <nirik> croberts: you had something?
19:26:39 <smooge> please send things you would to nirik to me if possible
19:27:20 <croberts> nirik: yes I was wondering since have been having issues with
the Fedora magazine on openshift i was wondering if we could maybe get it hosted in house
19:27:28 <croberts> we*
19:27:40 <nirik> croberts: well, there's a history there. ;)
19:27:49 <nirik> we hosted wordpress a while back.
19:27:49 <oddshocks> nirik: I just got a reply to the fi-apprentice list from
someone else, and it makes me realize that I did not get a prompt email for this month,
and can't remember if I got one last month either, is that OK?
19:28:02 <nirik> Almost no one used it, and it was a gigiantic pain to keep
19:28:35 <nirik> also, other places did it fine, so it seemed like something outside
our core area.
19:28:44 <nirik> oddshocks: huh, you should have gotten one.
19:28:48 <croberts> nirik: ah I could see where that would be an issue
19:28:57 <oddshocks> I can just use the one I have as a template and send ya my
19:29:04 <nirik> croberts: we could open the discussion again on that, but I think
we would be reluctant. ;(
19:29:17 <nirik> croberts: another option would be to look at wordpress.com?
19:29:33 <nirik> oddshocks: I can resend to you if you like also?
19:29:33 <croberts> nirik: no worries I just wanted to see what your oppinion on it
19:29:47 <oddshocks> nirik: if you don't I'll just use this one :)
19:30:17 <nirik> I also wonder if we could get a beefier openshift for it... we
might know someone over there to talk to... ;)
19:30:31 <nirik> oddshocks: either way works fine for me.
19:31:10 <oddshocks> then no need to send one :)
19:31:26 <nirik> k
19:31:40 <nirik> croberts: do you know the status of some of those tickets for
19:32:17 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4020
in particular. Are those still
needing things? or done?
19:32:22 <croberts> I believe I got the ssl turned off, I have tested it with
multiple computers and browsers even windows and dont see an SSL anymore
19:32:54 <croberts> 3985 wordpress keeps going to a 502 error
19:33:05 <croberts> it has been needing to be rebooted 1-2 times a week
19:33:23 <croberts> 4020 I will have to ask Mitzie about that one
19:33:28 <croberts> I will get an update and update the ticket
19:33:32 <nirik> odd. we never had much trouble that I know of with the flock one.
19:33:42 <croberts> it also lags quite a bit
19:34:00 <croberts> that is why I wanted to bring it up
19:34:01 <nirik> that would be great. If there's things we need to do from the
infra side, we should try and get them done. If not, close and work out where we do need
to fix. ;)
19:34:20 <croberts> I think 4020 can be closed
19:34:26 <nirik> well, it's still going thru our proxies.
19:34:30 <croberts> hmm
19:34:32 <nirik> as far as I can see.
19:34:38 <croberts> how would we go about getting that changed
19:35:19 <nirik> I could do it... or smooge can (I think he set it up )
19:35:38 <croberts> that would be awesome, we could get 4020 closed
19:35:38 <nirik> I guess it would just be switching dns...
19:35:56 <nirik> and cleaning up stuff on proxies if we wanted to, or just leaving
it for now.
19:36:07 <croberts> i know there is a new ticket created today as well because
diskpace is used up on the magazine
19:36:27 <nirik> yeah, jzb said he was going to look into it .
19:37:06 <croberts> I think if we change the proxies I think that would satisfy
19:37:17 <nirik> ok.
19:37:33 <croberts> i just was not sure who to ask
19:37:39 <nirik> any other items for open floor? questions, comments, ideas?
19:37:53 <nirik> croberts: yeah, wasn't sure what was needed there or I would
have done it sooner. ;)
19:38:12 <croberts> i will work on getting some of my other tickets closed this week
as well :)
19:38:52 <nirik> ok, sounds good.
19:38:59 * nirik will close out the meeting in a min if nothing else.
19:39:18 <smooge> nothing from me
19:39:19 <croberts> enjoy your vacation :)
19:40:15 <nirik> will try. :)
19:40:27 <oddshocks> cool :)
19:40:31 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone. Do continue in #fedora-admin,
#fedora-apps and #fedora-noc
19:40:33 <nirik> #endmeeting