#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2014-10-30)
Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available at
* aloha (nirik, 18:00:17)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 18:02:38)
* Freeze reminder (nirik, 18:09:43)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:10:29)
* atomic-composer ansible role in testing/staging on composer.stg.
* pygit2_utils interface to pygit2 hopefully with a stable api.
* new fas (fedora account system) in staging with various bugfixes.
Should be moved to production after freeze. (nirik, 18:13:55)
* Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 18:25:26)
* nagios alerts (nirik, 18:27:42)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:36:14)
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/1677/
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:42:15)
Meeting ended at 18:48:52 UTC.
Action Items, by person
People Present (lines said)
* nirik (70)
* pingou (24)
* smooge (17)
* puiterwijk (14)
* lmacken (13)
* threebean (11)
* rino (8)
* adimania (7)
* bochecha (6)
* kushal (5)
* zodbot (5)
* sritanu (3)
* aikidouke (2)
* bwood09 (1)
* danielbruno (1)
* abadger1999 (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* relrod (0)
* dgilmore (0)
18:00:17 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2014-10-30)
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18:00:17 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:17 <nirik> #topic aloha
18:00:17 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch
threebean pingou puiterwijk
18:00:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou
puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
18:00:20 * lmacken
18:00:25 * puiterwijk is here
18:00:29 * bwood09 here
18:00:31 * adimania is here
18:00:51 * pingou here
18:00:56 <aikidouke> here
18:01:48 * bochecha here, for once
18:01:55 * kushal is here
18:02:38 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
18:02:52 <nirik> any new folks like to introduce themselves? I saw several new folks
18:03:08 <kushal> sritanu, ^^^^
18:03:09 <adimania> not exactly new but here goes:
18:03:10 <sritanu> sritanu in #fedora-meeting
18:03:11 <adimania> hi. apologies for a long break. I had a nasty accident and my
mobility was reduced considerably. I am slowing coming back to action. So let us get the
rest of playbooks done! :)
18:03:12 * threebean here
18:03:30 <threebean> adimania: sorry to hear that! :(
18:03:40 <nirik> hey adimania. Welcome back and hope you have a quick and good
18:03:40 <kushal> adimania, get well soon.
18:03:43 <threebean> adimania: glad you're on the mend.
18:03:55 <adimania> nirik, threebean, kushal, thanks :)
18:04:18 <aikidouke> Brand new here, studying for my RHCSA, looking to gain
experience outside of my lab. happy to help in any way
18:04:23 <smooge> here
18:04:36 <sritanu> Hello to all.I am new to the FOSS world and I want to get started
with contributing to Fedora infrastructure projects.I would be happy to help in any way.
18:05:13 <pingou> adimania: get well :)
18:05:26 <adimania> pingou, :)
18:05:29 <nirik> aikidouke / sritanu: welcome! do read the getting started wiki
page... and if you are interested in the apprentice group, see me after the meeting over
in #fedora-admin and I can get you setup.
18:06:32 <sritanu> nirik, sure.I would love to. :)
18:06:38 <nirik> great. ;)
18:06:44 * danielbruno is here
18:08:09 <nirik> ok. any apprentices with questions or comments? or shall we move
18:09:43 <nirik> #topic Freeze reminder
18:09:52 <nirik> A reminder we are still in Beta freeze.
18:10:01 <nirik> hopefully we will ship beta tuesday and be out wed.
18:10:29 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
18:10:34 <nirik> any appplication news this week?
18:10:54 <pingou> I create a small interface to pygit2
18:11:20 <lmacken> I wrote a new atomic-composer ansible role, and just deployed it
to composer.stg. Working on fedmsg tweaks now, and will then dive into the MirrorManager1
integration of the ostrees.
18:11:51 <nirik> lmacken: awesome. I guess the idea being we add it after beta to
18:12:25 <lmacken> nirik: rawhide and f21 trees I'm guessing
18:12:29 <pingou> hoping to provide a stable API with it (which pygit2 doesn't
18:12:33 <nirik> cool.
18:12:37 <puiterwijk> there's been a new FAS release pushed to stg that picks up
all fixes since June, includes some fedmsg fixes. Planning to move to production once
freeze is lifted, but feel free to test
18:13:10 <nirik> #info atomic-composer ansible role in testing/staging on
18:13:29 <nirik> #info pygit2_utils interface to pygit2 hopefully with a stable
18:13:55 <nirik> #info new fas (fedora account system) in staging with various
bugfixes. Should be moved to production after freeze.
18:14:15 <nirik> bochecha: we landed some more dist-git changes in stg too right?
the upload hash changes?
18:14:25 <bochecha> nirik, partially, yes
18:14:32 <nirik> ok, but not the full set?
18:14:44 <bochecha> the stuff that landed only makes it possible to switch later on
(it adds support for sha512), but it still does md5
18:14:54 <nirik> ok, fair enough.
18:15:11 <threebean> work started on bodhi2+taskotron integration over here. still
yards more to go, though - not ready for staging yet.
18:15:26 <nirik> cool.
18:15:31 <lmacken> threebean++
18:15:34 <nirik> we need that before we can land bodhi2 in stg right?
18:15:40 <threebean> some progress made on getting compose/releng scripts working in
staging. sent some patches in and waiting on feedback for now.
18:15:42 <nirik> amoung other things probibly
18:15:46 <bochecha> for the record, plan for lookaside hashes is still:
18:16:04 <lmacken> such awesome flexible policy cascading with bean's new
18:16:16 <threebean> nirik: we'd like it. I don't think 'gating'
was a hard requirement, but we have time to get it in now.
18:16:33 <lmacken> threebean: I wish we could do PR's with that releng repo :P
18:16:40 <pingou> bochecha also pushed a bunch of patches to rpkg cleaning up a lots
of stuff :)
18:16:55 <nirik> were we still planning stg for bodhi sometime 'soon' with
the idea of prod after f21?
18:16:56 <threebean> lmacken: oh yeah. that does sound pleasant ;)
18:16:57 <bochecha> pingou, s/pushed/sent/, they still need to be reviewed and
18:17:15 <pingou> bochecha: true indeed
18:17:30 <pingou> so there are quite a number of patch waiting on the rel-eng list
18:17:50 <nirik> yeah, dgilmore has been traveling, beta composes have been
18:17:57 <nirik> Hopefully next week things will settle some
18:17:57 <pingou> threebean: lmacken progit? :)
18:18:09 <threebean> 2015, year of the progit.
18:18:23 * bochecha has to go now, bye everyone
18:18:23 <lmacken> nirik: or at least stg after f21 :)
18:18:28 <pingou> bochecha: cheers!
18:18:30 <lmacken> threebean: code review's just aren't the same without
18:18:38 <lmacken> pingou: yes, that would rule.
18:18:42 <pingou> lmacken: :canfix:
18:18:43 <nirik> :)
18:18:51 <lmacken> :shipit:
18:18:58 <nirik> ok, anything else on the applications side?
18:19:17 <pingou> we should get ryan and mizmo on board for the emojis :D
18:19:18 <puiterwijk> maybe a re-announce of FedOAuth and Ipsilon merge coming along
18:19:32 <pingou> puiterwijk: I meant to ask you about this :)
18:19:43 <lmacken> puiterwijk: and we need to start porting to saml or something,
18:19:45 <puiterwijk> for more info and current status:
18:20:01 <puiterwijk> lmacken: not yet. I first want to move to ipsilon, and then
I'll start looking into that
18:20:24 <lmacken> puiterwijk: okay cool. I can pretty easily port to use velruse,
which should handle it fine
18:20:57 <puiterwijk> lmacken: yeah. but if we come to that part, I'll go around
and look what will need to be done et al. so for now, just assume that external apps
(Fedora Infra apps etc) won't see any difference
18:21:15 <pingou> puiterwijk: I see only 2 items left there: persona and
configuration, is that it?
18:21:20 <puiterwijk> pingou: yup
18:21:24 <pingou> :cool:
18:21:33 <puiterwijk> and based on my planning, persona should be in this week
18:21:49 <nirik> puiterwijk: should it be happy on rhel7? or have you been using
rhel6 for testing/porting?
18:21:54 <puiterwijk> I think configuration is also going along pretty well, and
I've seen some patches for that. so I wouldn't be surprised if that lands this or
18:22:30 <puiterwijk> nirik: at first we might need to add some packages to EPEL
while waiting for them to make their way to RHEL, but we're making it work on RHEL7
18:22:59 <nirik> ok, great. I'd prefer to not deploy anything new on 6 anymore.
18:23:00 <puiterwijk> or rather, we're testing/developing on RHEL7 and Fedora.
so I'm not even sure it will run on RHEL6 :)
18:23:07 <nirik> ok, fine. ;)
18:23:45 <puiterwijk> as soon as we get the config and persona in, I will send
another email to the list with an expected schedule for stg
18:24:49 <nirik> great!
18:25:26 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
18:25:36 <nirik> not too much on the sysadmin side I can think of off hand...
18:25:52 <puiterwijk> I think it's been pretty quiet there because of the
18:26:04 <nirik> smooge has been working on a spreadsheet of all our machines and
18:26:14 <nirik> yeah.
18:26:27 <smooge> yay.. spreadsheets
18:26:34 <nirik> just the typical requests coming in...
18:26:43 <puiterwijk> smooge: when is the ASCII-art version coming? :)
18:27:01 <smooge> <<Angry eye emoji>>
18:27:02 <pingou> puiterwijk: ask mattdm :-p
18:27:12 <adimania> I wonder if it is possible to use something like OCS-ng instead
18:27:22 <smooge> rebuilt fed-cloud11 for kushal
18:27:42 <nirik> #topic nagios alerts
18:27:48 <nirik> .tiny
18:27:59 <smooge> oh nirik I had something we sysadmins need to look at
18:28:00 <zodbot> nirik: http://tinyurl.com/pllgkmt
18:28:03 * nirik has to step away for a min, back in a flash
18:28:10 <nirik> smooge: go ahead.
18:28:11 * threebean remembers this was a fun nagios week
18:28:35 <smooge> osuosl03 was ready to be used for a box and then we got caught up
in summer stuff.
18:28:41 <smooge> and now it is not responding
18:28:56 <smooge> so I need to get onto the osu vpn and figutre out what is going on
18:30:09 <nirik> smooge: ? it has several guests on it...
18:30:21 <smooge> ok I am smoking crack
18:30:28 <smooge> was I trying to get to osuosl04
18:30:54 <smooge> I was trying to get all the warranty stuff done and was looking
for a system at osu that may not exist
18:31:01 <nirik> we don't have one of those that I know of?
18:31:09 <nirik> 03 is the new one.
18:31:21 <rino> hi. im late :/
18:31:22 <smooge> ok well then never mind. I saved myself 2 tasks
18:31:46 <nirik> there is a ibiblio04...
18:32:50 <nirik> smooge: note: on the rhel7 external hosts we have iptables blocking
ssh except from phx2, vpn, and a few other ip's...
18:32:51 <rino> i was in fudcon managua and i saw a talks about infra, and i want to
know how to apply to work with first tickets
18:33:07 <nirik> hey rino. Welcome.
18:33:24 * threebean waves "hello"
18:33:35 <rino> :)
18:33:50 * pingou wants to see threebean waving it irl
18:34:14 <nirik> rino: do see
for more info.
18:35:01 <nirik> anything else on the sysadmin side / nagios? or shall we move on?
18:35:03 <rino> great
18:35:09 <rino> i work with nagios
18:35:29 <rino> im ambassador and packager
18:35:31 <rino> i will check it
18:35:33 <rino> thanks
18:36:01 <nirik> rino: sure, we have nagios tickets from time to time and are always
looking for improvements
18:36:14 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
18:36:14 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
18:36:22 <nirik> anything upcoming folks would like to note or schedule?
18:36:54 <pingou> FAD :)
18:37:17 <nirik> oh yeah, I was going to add that to the calendar? or were you going
to pingou ?
18:37:31 <pingou> nirik: I can sure
18:37:54 <nirik> december 4th - 9th. We will be in RDU at the Red Hat tower... but
of course remote help always welcome.
18:38:30 <adimania> I would be helping out remotely.
18:38:49 <threebean> cool :)
18:38:58 <pingou> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/1677/
18:39:14 <nirik> I exchanged some email with mdehann... he's going to try and
come out for at least 1/2day or something and help us out/look over our setup/tell us
where we are doing things poorly. ;)
18:39:38 <pingou> nirik: over the week-end?
18:39:56 <nirik> he wasn't sure, said he would update the wiki page when he knew
18:40:05 <pingou> cool, that sounds great! :)
18:40:41 <lmacken> nirik: excellent
18:40:51 <pingou> speaking of wiki: feel free to edit
when you know your flights&price
18:41:13 <nirik> pingou: I sent to stickster, haven't heard yet if he had a
chance to book it.
18:41:26 <pingou> I shall ask him then :)
18:42:15 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:42:25 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor?
18:42:53 <smooge> We have various US holidays coming up
18:43:10 <nirik> yeah, thanksgiving then xmas/new years. :)
18:43:38 <smooge> In 4 weeks 1/2 week is off for Thanksgiving. And in 8 weeks Red
Hat takes a week off for closing end of year stuff.
18:43:42 <kushal> nirik, when is thanksgiving ?
18:43:52 <smooge> Nov 27 2014
18:43:59 <kushal> smooge, Okay, thanks :)
18:44:00 <pingou> thanks
18:44:29 <smooge> RH close dates are 23rd? -> Jan 5th I believe
18:44:37 <smooge> but not sure.
18:45:02 <nirik> 24th to the 1st... + any people take
18:46:14 <nirik> The important thing to note there is that RH employees may or may
not be around, so don't expect they will be. :)
18:47:11 <nirik> ok, anything else? or shall we call it a meeting?
18:48:49 <nirik> ok. Thanks for coming everyone. Lets continue in #fedora-admin,
#fedora-apps and #fedora-noc.
18:48:52 <nirik> #endmeeting