You're still not looking at it the right way. The way you've worded it it
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> > Mike McGrath
> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:34 AM
> > To: Fedora Infrastructure
> > Subject: RE: Change with FAS sysadmin-* accounts
> > We link to the
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_be_a_successful_contributor
> > document
> > on the getting started page that mentions some techniques you can use.
> > I
> > still have a lot of people come in looking for "access to things"
> > instead
> > of work to do which is kind of backwards. But the docs we have in
> > place
> > are relatively new so we'll see how it goes.
> > -Mike
> Good points. I've done my intro, looked at work that needs to be done,
> and volunteered services. So, since I am ungrouped and unsponsored, is
> my next step still soliciting for an invite on the list / IRC?