hi Johann,
I can empathise with you on the frustration that comes from a certain
feature or ease not available to Fedora community due to non-alignment or
low priority against RH business needs.
Since this issue has apparently been discussed for a while, one thing that
I find amiss from the doc that pingou mentioned is the 'Why' ? I will
suggest you add the problems you face to that doc. So when we revisit the
page, the list of "whys" over there make it easy to make a decision. (You
did mention the whys in the mail response, but would make it better to note
and keep adding in the doc).
The first two points on problems/issues over in the doc would be my biggest
concern (resource scarcity). Though I agree that cannot assign to rhel
would be a trivial one.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Fedora_bug_tracker#Why_does...
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg(a)gmail.com
wrote:
On 09/17/2013 09:44 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 08:24:58AM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
>> Greetings
>>
>> I think it's time that we start putting some effort into both
>> discussing and migrating away from sharing bugzilla instance with
>> Red Hat.
>>
> This is indeed a big question that has been in the air for some time
> without
> any real conclusion reached.
> Since you're speaking about, I assume you know about:
>
https://fedoraproject.org/**wiki/Infrastructure_Fedora_**bug_tracker<h...
>
No I was unaware of that but skimming over it this "cannot clone bugs over
to rhel packages/products easily." is irrelevant point in that discussion +
which instance it should be should be decide in good collaboration with the
QA community since we are arguably the largest userbase of it.
> If you have any inputs/ideas feel free to share them, we have already
> discussed
> more than once about it but so far the disadvantages and work implied have
> out-weight the advantages.
>
> One of the big point being the definition of who is "we" in your sentence.
>
The project/community in whole but as I have mentioned to Kevin atleast on
one occasion if it boils down to it I will personally put my free time in
running and administrative that instance since my frustration level with RH
bugzilla has grown to an all time high due to frequent collision with
internal RH administrative policy's that nobody in the community knows
exactly which are,frequent RH employement mistakes in bug handling between
Fedora and RHEL as well as several other issue we are faced with it in the
QA community and the hindrance it serves to the growth to our community and
the fact we cant hack in it directly to make ours as well as other
processes work smoothly which makes everybody's life easier.
> For the first should we migrate all issues from the RH bugzilla to
>> keep history or should we simply declare a flag day and from that
>> point on everybody will be using the new bug tracker
>>
>> Secondly do people have any option on which bug tracker we should
>> migrate to as in should we stick to mozilla's bugzilla or should we
>> use something else?
>>
> You do realize that here you're speaking about migration w/o knowing to
> what
> will be the migration? Seems like the reverse order to me.
>
Not really we can reach the decision based upon if we would like to
migrate "older" bugs to keep history or if we would skip that step and
choose to use a fresh deployment and simply use the RH bugzilla instance
strictly for historic lookup in bugs purpose for EOL releases.
JBG
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