2014-07-17 12:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Glezos <glezos(a)transifex.com>:
> Hey all,
> I'll share some of my thoughts at this point.
> Freedom is more than just access to a tarball. What kinds of Freedom is
> Fedora enjoying and giving up by using a platform like Transifex or GitHub?
> What is the Board's position about using non-open-source but open-friendly
> services? How much should we sacrifice to only run open-source on our
> Research thoroughly all possible solutions and find out what exactly we'll
> be sacrificing and gaining. Pootle is much more trusted than Zanata.
> Ask all key Fedora L10n people. Past and current.
> Any switch should be led by a technical Fedora localization person.
> The goal should be to make Fedora L10n a successful project. The tools are
> just tools. The most important community features in Transifex have not been
> Dimitris Glezos
> Founder & CEO, Transifex
we need to be consistent IMHO, if one of our foundations is FREEDOM we
can't use non-free tools, or at least we should not use them if we
have alternatives. As a mentor I'd feel bad telling people about
Fedora's values and knowing at the same time the Project itself is not
consistent with exactly these values. It's the same discussion we had
for 3d party repositories, but we should focus on this single topic.
Zanata actually is an alternative, probably not on the same level as
TX, but anyway, I'd feel better using Zanata knowing we are respecting
or 4 foundations, than staying on a proprietary tool.
The infrastructure team will be having it's weekly meeting tomorrow,
2014-07-17 at 18:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on the freenode network.
#topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices
would like to ask general questions, they can do so in this part of the
meeting. Don't be shy!
#topic Applications status / discussion
Check in on status of our applications: pkgdb, fas, bodhi, koji,
community, voting, tagger, packager, dpsearch, etc.
If there's new releases, bugs we need to work around or things to note.
#topic Sysadmin status / discussion
Here we talk about sysadmin related happenings from the previous week,
or things that are upcoming.
#topic nagios/alerts recap
Here we go over the last weeks alerts and see if we can find ways to
make it so they don't happen again.
#topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
#topic Open Floor
Submit your agenda items, as tickets in the trac instance and send a
note replying to this thread.
More info here:
I have just put in pkgdb2's git what I believe is the current final touch to
allow testing group maintainership in pkgdb2.
Basically, pkgdb2 will now ask you upon log-in if you are: in one of the admin
groups, a packager, in a group that is currently maintaining one or more
packages in the database.
I also created an `infra-sig` group in FAS with the type: pkgdb, the two
requirements enforced by pkgdb2 are:
- the group should be of type pkgdb
- the group should end with `-sig`
So I would like to ask who has some time to start looking at this, maybe early
On the pkgdb side, unless we want to change some things, I think it will be
alright (and if not, I'll adjust), but I think we still need to adjust our
scripts syncing ACLs to git and bugzilla or at least test them.
We'll also probably want to see how bodhi reacts and if it allows a packager to
create a package because the packager is in the appropriate FAS group.
So, Toshio, Luke, would you have time to help with this?
Thanks to some detective work from Siddhesh Poyarekar (a glibc
maintainer) and then fas work from Xavier LAMIEN, we have now fixed the
long standing anoying bug with fas enabled machines where users
wouldn't get all their shell groups on login.
This means you no longer need to run 'newgrp' before sudo, it should
just work (provided you are in a group that is allowed to sudo on that
Thanks again everyone involved. It's great to have this fixed.
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Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
Dear infrastructure devs,
My name is Michel Alexandre Salim (IRC handle: michel_slm); I've been a
longtime contributor on the packaging side, and was previously involved
tangentially with the sysadmin-darkserver FIG when Kushal and I were
exploring a potential rewrite that ended up not take place.
I'm currently in charge of system administration for a local ISP
(cergis.net.id), and had a similar responsibility at my previous job for
an Indonesian hospital group; and am versed in the tools that this team
- Linux - Fedora/CentOS (Debian too but that's not relevant)
- MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle
I'm looking at the list of outstanding issues now -- I'll perhaps ask at
the next meeting which of the non-sensitive issues could use some help
at the moment.
Michel Alexandre Salim
Fedora Project Contributor: http://fedoraproject.org/
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For https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Atomic_Cloud_Image I was
talking with Dennis Gilmore about some of what we would need to do in
order to have Atomic be more closely integrated into the mainline
>From memory, some action items:
* Define repodata.xml or similar to enable mirroring, add mirrorlist
* Start doing tree composes in daily compose runs [dgilmore]
* Move fedora-atomic git repository into fedorahosted [walters]
* Determine how Anaconda-in-Koji can pull tree content [?]
Also, I need to followup to Kevin on the mirroring, which is related to
the last item.
Dennis, can you post the picture you took of the whiteboard?
I'd like to know what does "Obsolete" mean in the pkgdb commit access,
and I couldn't understand why it still presents if someone has dropped
Plus, why can't the point of the contact remove the obslete acl?