I have about seventeen years of experience in IT and have been using
Linux since I first install Red Hat 4.0 in about '93 or '94 I guess. I
know a few compiled languages with C++ being the stand out and have
exposure to many scripting languages including bash scripting, PHP and a
current interest in learning Python. I'm familiar with many of the
protocols that form the foundations of the "net" and have extensive
exposure to many and varied Fedora packages and open source software.
I have noticed from posts in this list that sysadmin-noc could use
people and given this is read only access it's probably the safest place
to start as well :) I have been conversing with dgilmore on IRC and he
has kindly agreed to sponsor me (obviously a fearless soul).
Cheers, I look forward to working with you all,
Including Infrastructure team gurus on this email thread for
additional expert advice and assistance. :-) Setting reply-to docs@
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:55:05AM -0400, Eric Sparks Christensen wrote:
> On 06/05/2010 03:14 AM, Ruediger Landmann wrote:
> > One of the new features of Publican 2.0 that I haven't mentioned yet is
> > that it creates an XML sitemap for search engine bots to crawl. You can
> > find d.fp.o.'s sitemap here:
> > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/Sitemap
> > I've fed this to Google, Yahoo, and Bing, and they're all slowly
> > re-indexing the site. The map now contains a little over 2,000 URLs and
> > at the time of writing, Google has crawled about 350 of them.
> I know that Google has some algorithm that figures out how often your
> site changes and then crawls more or less frequently. Not sure if we
> could work with Google on scheduling this more or less around the time
> of a release. Of course I'm guessing that we won't have this big
> re-structuring next time, either.
> > The dilemma we face is the decision of when to turn off the 404
> > redirect. For the sake of all the existing links scattered around the
> > net (both on the Fedora Project site and off it), we'd want to postpone
> > this as far as possible. On the other hand, any bot attempting to verify
> > that link gets a page served up and probably concludes that the link is
> > valid; I suspect that if these links 404ed, they'd start to evaporate
> > from search results.
> Isn't there a type of redirect (302?) that tells you that you are being
> redirected so you don't think the URL is valid?
I thought that 301 and 302 both do this, but 302 generally is used for
temporary redirects, and 301 for permanent ones. So 301 would be the
one you're thinking of here perhaps?
> > Given that existing links around the net are pointing to (at most
> > recent) the F12 versions of docs, there will be no need to keep the 404
> > redirect in place past October; however, if we want to start allowing
> > dead links to 404 out rather than poison search results, maybe we should
> > bring that date forward? The sooner we do this, the sooner search will
> > start working properly...
> Yeah, the sooner the better, IMO.
I wonder how long you would need 301's in place before it's safe to
remove them? Because I think Infrastructure's not keen on maintaining
a big list of these.
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We have updated the Publictest and stg.fedoraproject.org servers to
RHEL-5.5 The postgres server on db01.stg.fedoraproject.org has been
updated to postgres84. Please test applications to make sure they are
working. We are hoping to update the rest of infrastructure next week.
Stephen J Smoogen.
“The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance.”
Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University.
"We have a strategic plan. It's called doing things.""
— Herb Kelleher, founder Southwest Airlines
Once we're confident 5.5 is done and happy (smooge is working on this now.
thanks smooge!) I'd like to rebuild the staging environment. Mostly
because it'd be nice for this to be a regular thing that happens during a
Anyone have a problem with that?
Somehow I don't get any mail in my inbox for this list. So I am looking at
archives for replies :(
Presently I am looking for C,C++ work in fedora. Infrastructure project
looks interesting to me so want learn the technologies that are used in
I have about 3 years of sysadmin experience, my scripting skills are a
bit lacking, I do know bash/sh quite well, my perl is ok and I've
dabbled in with both ruby and python, but more importantly; I want to
learn them all well :)
I am still looking through the different areas on the wiki, and I hope I
can of help for the project
All the best
Lowe Schmidt <lsc(a)nobelium.se>