infrastructure October 2009

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Meeting Log - 2009-10-01
by Ricky Zhou 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

20:00 < mmcgrath> #startmeeting 20:00 < zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 1 20:00:14 2009 UTC. The chair is mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00 < zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00 -!- fenrus02 [n=dj@fedora/fenris02] has quit " " 20:01 -!- skvidal [n=nnnnskvi@fedora/skvidal] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:01 < ricky> Clearly, nobody noticed because the "m" was lowercased :-) 20:01 < mmcgrath> Who all is here? 20:01 < mmcgrath> #topic Who is here 20:01 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Who is here 20:01 * ricky 20:01 * bochecha is around 20:01 < Ccielogs> I am :) 20:01 * a-k is here 20:01 < Ccielogs> #info 20:02 * mdomsch somewhat 20:02 -!- rishi_ [n=rishi(a)dsl-hkibrasgw2-fef0de00-68.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 20:02 * abadger1999 here 20:02 -!- spoleeba [n=one@fedora/Jef] has quit "Leaving" 20:03 < leemwilliams> thought I'd stop by ;) 20:03 -!- thekadafk [n=thekad(a)64-71-7-198.static.wiline.com] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:03 < mmcgrath> Ok, lets get started 20:03 < mmcgrath> #topic Change Freeze 20:03 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Change Freeze 20:03 < mmcgrath> Just a reminder... 20:03 < mmcgrath> we are change frozen! 20:03 * thekadafk is hanging for a minute before heading out to eat 20:03 < mmcgrath> Check the list for directions on knowing whether or not something can be changed. 20:04 * nirik is sorta kind here in the back. 20:04 < mmcgrath> Any questions on that? 20:04 < mmcgrath> Ok, so next topic 20:04 < mmcgrath> #topic The Beta Release 20:04 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: The Beta Release 20:04 < mmcgrath> Lets get some tickets together. 20:05 -!- amitphukan [n=aphukan@nat/redhat-us/x-vtkthmkjkbriuhww] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:05 < mmcgrath> First ticket is the new website 20:05 < mmcgrath> ricky: you on that one as usual? 20:06 < ricky> Yup, and other websites people have been helping a lot more with the release stuff too 20:06 -!- Sonar_Guy [n=Who@fedora/sonarguy] has quit "Leaving" 20:06 < mmcgrath> ricky: ok, go ahead and accept 20:06 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1709 20:06 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1709 (f12-beta website) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1709 20:07 < mmcgrath> Anyone with access already want to get 20:07 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1710 20:07 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1710 (Verify Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1710 20:07 < mmcgrath> Ok, I'll go ahead and take that one. 20:08 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1711 20:08 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1711 (Release day ticket) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1711 20:08 < mmcgrath> that's a release day ticket, just a tracking one. I'll accept that one. 20:08 < mmcgrath> smooge: you around? 20:09 < mmcgrath> k, next ticket is 20:09 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1712 20:09 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1712 (verify releng permissions) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1712 20:09 < smooge> I am here 20:09 < mmcgrath> This is to verify we don't accidentally leak permissions 20:09 < mmcgrath> smooge: hey do you want some of these beta tickets? 20:09 < smooge> mmcgrath, sorry I went to get my theraflu 20:09 < mmcgrath> 1710 and 1712 would be good ones. 20:09 -!- thekadafk [n=thekad(a)64-71-7-198.static.wiline.com] has quit 20:09 < smooge> I will take them 20:09 < mmcgrath> smooge: k, go ahead and accept them. 20:09 < smooge> 09,10,11, and 12? 20:10 < smooge> or just 10 and 12? 20:10 < mmcgrath> just 10 and 12 20:10 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1713 20:10 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1713 (MM Redirects) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1713 20:10 < smooge> thanks.. doing so 20:10 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: you want to get this one? 20:10 < mdomsch> sure 20:11 < mdomsch> though if the release number is 11.9[0123] it's done 20:11 < mmcgrath> :) 20:11 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: k, if it's already done go ahead and close that ticket. 20:11 < mdomsch> done 20:11 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1714 20:11 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1714 (Infrastructure Change Freeze) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1714 20:11 < mmcgrath> this one is in place already 20:12 -!- rishi [n=rishi@gnu-india/supporter/debarshi] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 20:12 < mmcgrath> Ok then 20:12 < mmcgrath> here's the page - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9 20:13 < mmcgrath> That look reasonable to everyone? 20:14 < smooge> one sec 20:15 -!- krichard [n=krichard(a)cpe-024-211-252-120.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:15 < smooge> looks good. 20:15 < mmcgrath> Ok 20:15 < mmcgrath> so now the thing that, at present, isn't looking so hot.... 20:15 < mmcgrath> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/milestone/Fedora%2012 20:15 < mmcgrath> So lets go through these. 20:16 < mmcgrath> mchua: ping 20:16 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: ping 20:17 < smooge> wow thats a lot of tickets 20:17 < mmcgrath> smooge: yeah, especially this late in the game. 20:17 < smooge> I read that as Fedora 2012.. was wondering why we were doing Mayan calender DOOOM 20:17 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: ping 20:17 < mmcgrath> ricky: ping 20:18 < ricky> A lot of the websites ones are are tracking that probably shouldn't have been given those milestones 20:18 * mmcgrath wonders where everyoen is. 20:18 < mmcgrath> ricky: 20:18 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1299 20:18 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1299 (Getting a Fedora 10 test server up.) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1299 20:18 * skvidal is right here 20:18 < skvidal> I'm just ducking out 20:18 < smooge> Fedora 10 server? 20:18 < mmcgrath> ricky: that one's assigned to you, can it be closed? 20:18 < ricky> More specifically it was for a 32 bit one, which I haven't had any success with :-( 20:19 < mmcgrath> k 20:19 < ricky> If you/susmit still want to test that calendar app, then it probably shouldn't be closed yet 20:19 < mmcgrath> will it be done by F12? 20:20 < mmcgrath> ggruener: ping? 20:20 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: ping 20:20 < ricky> I can try building on different machines if necessary, so yes, unless the 32 bit issue I ran into applies *everywhere* 20:20 < mmcgrath> ricky: k, lets try 20:21 -!- sijis [n=sijis(a)adsl-76-202-217-48.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:21 < ricky> I believe ibiblio1 was the only place I tried previously 20:21 < mmcgrath> ricky: do you know anyone that can work on 20:21 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1227 20:21 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1227 (Hosting footer) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1227 20:21 < mmcgrath> ? 20:22 < mmcgrath> lmacken: ping 20:22 < mmcgrath> ianweller: ping 20:22 < mdomsch> the MM hotfixes I'll handle after change freeze 20:22 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: <nod> 20:23 < mdomsch> 1079 (icecast) may change after the Fedora Talk FAD 20:23 < mmcgrath> Oxf13: ping 20:23 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: yeah that one probably will end up at F13 final. 20:23 < mdomsch> most of those others aren't required for F12 20:24 < mmcgrath> Ok, so this is going nowhere fast. I'm going to move on in the meeting and continue this on list 20:24 < mmcgrath> anyone have any issues with that? 20:24 < mdomsch> +1 20:24 < smooge> +1 20:24 < mmcgrath> alllrighty 20:25 < mmcgrath> #topic New Apps Testing "matrix" 20:25 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: New Apps Testing "matrix" 20:25 < mmcgrath> so one thing we've been laxed on is having a good way of testing applications that get deployed. 20:25 < mmcgrath> this is both a technical hurdle and a policy one. 20:25 < mmcgrath> So I've been putting together some scripts with pythoh mechanize. 20:25 < mmcgrath> .tiny http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-infrastructure.git/?p=fedora-infrast… 20:25 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/yeocsvz 20:26 < ggruener> mmcrath:pong 20:26 < ggruener> sorry im currently at work 20:26 < mmcgrath> ggruener: hey, I was wondering the status of ticket 1549 but we're going to take it to the list anyway :) 20:26 < mmcgrath> So I've created a small testing script for mirrormanger and FAS. 20:26 * mdomsch bows 20:26 < mmcgrath> my hope is that these will continue to evolve over time and get used every time we do an update, etc, etc. 20:26 < mmcgrath> any time we miss something, it gets added to the script. We won't miss it again. 20:27 < mmcgrath> it's actually not terribly difficult to use. The python code is messy because it's very 'step 1, step 2, step 3' 20:27 < mmcgrath> but it's pretty easy to see what's going on there. 20:27 < mmcgrath> also I'm trying to do a good job of incorperating not just 'does it work or 500' but also including baseline performance data for comparison. 20:28 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any questions or comments on those? 20:29 < mmcgrath> 'mmm kay 20:29 < mmcgrath> #topic Cumulus! 20:29 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Cumulus! 20:29 < mmcgrath> So the Fedora cloud stuff (code named cumulus) sort of went live(ish) this week. 20:29 < mmcgrath> we've got people 20:29 < mmcgrath> they have guests. 20:29 < mmcgrath> they're using them, and AFAIK, they're still being used. 20:29 < mmcgrath> ianweller: how's your guest been? 20:30 < Jeff_S> mmcgrath: where can I read more about cumulus? 20:31 < mmcgrath> Jeff_S: this is about all we have documented atm - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/FedoraCloud 20:31 -!- GeroldKa [n=GeroldKa@fedora/geroldka] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:31 < mmcgrath> unfortunately the web interface is just not general public ready at this time. 20:31 < Jeff_S> thanks 20:31 < mmcgrath> still buggy and not really useful without root on the server for troubleshooting. 20:32 < mmcgrath> but still, people have their guests :) 20:32 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any questions on that? 20:32 < mmcgrath> Jeff_S: also the SOP - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Cloud_Infrastructure_SOP 20:33 -!- tibbs [n=tibbs@fedora/tibbs] has quit "Konversation terminated!" 20:33 < mmcgrath> Allrighty 20:33 < mmcgrath> #topic Open Floor 20:33 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Open Floor 20:33 < mmcgrath> I'm opening the floor 20:33 < mmcgrath> does anyone have anything they'd like to discuss? 20:33 < smooge> was thinking of using his cloud for cracking DES passwords 20:33 < mmcgrath> Any new people around that'd like to say hi? 20:33 < smooge> not really 20:33 < smooge> hi to the new people 20:33 < ggruener> mmcgrath: about the ticket 1549 I am still thinking how can I create this test that i avoid to test only cvs 20:33 < abadger1999> Anyone know if we have electionscoming up? 20:33 < leemwilliams> yep, I'm new thought I'd stop by say hello see how things work etc. 20:33 < mmcgrath> ggruener: if it won't be done by F12 please move it to F13 :) 20:33 < Jeff_S> I'm not new, but I don't usually watch these meetings... so, "hi" 20:33 < Ccielogs> well not technical but I would like to say "hi" and eventually introduce myself :) 20:33 < mmcgrath> stickster: do you know? 20:33 < mmcgrath> leemwilliams: helo 20:34 < mmcgrath> Ccielogs: hello! 20:34 < mmcgrath> leemwilliams: I see you've sent your intro 20:34 < mmcgrath> Ccielogs: have you sent yours? 20:34 < abadger1999> Grretings new people. The meeting is only part of the fun :-) 20:34 < Ccielogs> yup in the ML as Daniele 20:35 < mdomsch> abadger1999, elections need to be just after Thanksgiving 20:35 < mdomsch> so, yes, but "not quite yet" 20:35 < mdomsch> abadger1999, you want to run them this time? :-) 20:35 < mdomsch> or inode0 ? 20:35 < mmcgrath> Ccielogs: ah, welcome! 20:35 < Ccielogs> <mmcgrath> ccielogs is my FAS username and what usually I use in here 20:35 < abadger1999> mdomsch: heh I just want to make sure we close the CSRF ticket by then: 20:35 < leemwilliams> yep, I did see the reply but I'm not so sure on what I want to work on for you guys ;) I do like the dev stuff and that's where my skill set is 20:35 < mmcgrath> Ccielogs: sure 20:35 < abadger1999> .ticket 992 20:35 < zodbot> abadger1999: #992 (CSRF) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/992 20:35 < abadger1999> Elections is the only app left to do. 20:36 < smooge> oh open floor item: PHX1 -> PHX2 move 20:36 < mdomsch> smooge, yes please 20:36 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: think it'll be done by F12? 20:36 < abadger1999> mmcgrath: It could be -- the code is written we just have to deploy 20:36 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: <nod> 20:36 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: anything else on that? if not we'll talk about the move. 20:36 < Ccielogs> mmcgrath: thanks :) I even applied to the sysadmin group and I'll wait for someone giving me a chance to prove useful to the community :) 20:37 < mmcgrath> Ccielogs: I'll approve you now 20:37 < abadger1999> nope, go on to the move. 20:37 < mmcgrath> leemwilliams: have you applied / been approved? 20:37 < Ccielogs> mmcgrath: thanks a lot! 20:37 < leemwilliams> not applied, I'll apply to the dev group most likely. 20:37 < mmcgrath> leemwilliams: k, let me know when you do, I'll approve. 20:37 < leemwilliams> mmcgrath, cheers 20:38 < mmcgrath> Ok, the move 20:38 < smooge> ok moving right along footloose and fancy free. 20:38 < mmcgrath> I've not really heard much since last week. 20:38 < mmcgrath> my meeting with Eric this week got cancelled. 20:38 < mmcgrath> I've got some servers on order. not sure when they'll be in yet 20:38 * mmcgrath follows up and asks about that. 20:38 * mdomsch hears smooge's kermit voice 20:39 < smooge> with my cold at the moment.. thats about right 20:39 < mdomsch> (the room is too young to remember the first Muppet Movie) 20:39 < mmcgrath> Also we may be getting 4 additional servers from another group inside RH that doesn't need them anymore. 20:39 -!- rishi__ [n=rishi(a)dsl-hkibrasgw2-ff66c300-17.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit No route to host 20:39 < mmcgrath> not sure about the specs or timeline yet. 20:40 < smooge> our main issues will be dealing with any slippage from current release date. 20:40 < mmcgrath> smooge: yeah, that would be uber bad. 20:40 < smooge> So please heavily test the beta when it comes out and rawhide 20:40 < smooge> I would rather not be in PHX during Thanksgiving.. but hey 20:40 < mmcgrath> indeed! 20:40 < mdomsch> F12 and opensuse 11.2 are planned the same week 20:40 -!- mizmo [n=duffy@fedora/mizmo] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:40 < mmcgrath> now that we're frozen I'm sure we can all find time to do one test in the QA test matrix. 20:41 < smooge> mmcgrath, pointer please :) 20:41 -!- mcepl [n=mcepl(a)49-117-207-85.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has left #fedora-meeting [] 20:41 < sijis> where's that matrix? 20:41 < ggruener> mmcgrath: can you send the URL to the QA test matrix 20:41 < ggruener> i always forget the url:) 20:42 < mmcgrath> This was the F11 QA one 20:42 < mmcgrath> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Alpha_Install_Test_Results 20:42 < mmcgrath> they change quite a bit. 20:42 < mmcgrath> You can see A) how it goes and B) we totally need hands and fingers doing these tests. 20:42 < mmcgrath> jlaska: you around? 20:42 < sijis> mmcgrath: thanks. 20:43 < jlaska> mmcgrath: sure am, what's up? 20:43 < mmcgrath> I'll find out from the QA team what the plan is this time around and send it to the... oh there he is now. 20:43 < mmcgrath> jlaska: hey do you know what the F12 beta version of this is - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Alpha_Install_Test_Results ? 20:43 < mmcgrath> or where it's going to be? 20:43 < jlaska> the official beta release candidate version isn't live yet 20:44 < jlaska> but ... we have the beta test compose page still active ... 20:44 < a-k> There's https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_12_Alpha_TC_Install_Test_Results 20:44 < jlaska> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_Beta_TC_Install 20:44 < mmcgrath> jlaska: thanks, just prepping some of the Infrastructure people what to expect and where they can find it :) 20:44 < jlaska> we have a beta matrix up ... but won't start the ball on that until the RC hits 20:44 < jlaska> mmcgrath: much appreciated thanks! 20:45 < jlaska> mmcgrath: lili is interested in ways to improve this manual process in the short-term. As always, ideas and suggestions are welcome+encouraged :) 20:45 < mmcgrath> jlaska: <nod> sounds good. 20:45 -!- sharkcz [n=dan(a)plz1-v-4-17.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit "Ukončuji" 20:45 < mmcgrath> anyone have any other questions? 20:46 < leemwilliams> yep 20:46 < leemwilliams> are there specific test environements or is it best to setup our own shop? 20:46 < mmcgrath> always best to setup your own if you can, but we do have publictest servers available 20:47 -!- thekad [n=thekad(a)64-71-7-198.static.wiline.com] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:47 < leemwilliams> would you be happy with a virtualised test env? just getting F11 up to how I need it :) 20:47 < mmcgrath> yep, most of our stuff is virtualized 20:47 < leemwilliams> cool 20:48 < Ccielogs> great 20:48 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else? 20:48 * leemwilliams is a recent windows convert 20:49 < mmcgrath> leemwilliams: welcome :) 20:49 < mmcgrath> If no one has anything else we'll close in 30 20:50 < mmcgrath> #endmeeting 20:50 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule 20:50 < mmcgrath> Thanks for coming everyone! 20:50 < zodbot> Meeting ended Thu Oct 1 20:50:18 2009 UTC. 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New deltarpm -- who do I talk to about testing?
by Toshio Kuratomi 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

I have a new deltarpm package built for the rel-eng repo: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1721745 I can put it into the rel-eng repository to update the servers but who do I talk to about testing it? We'll also need approval to brakinfra change freeze to deploy it once it's tested. Risk: This update affects creation of deltas between zlib compressed rpms. That should not affect F-12 except for packages which failed the mass rebuild and have not been updated since. It will affect the updates repository in previous releases where we are generating deltarpms. Reason: This update is a security fix. The previous release bundled a copy of zlib which had one unfixed vulnerability. The CVE says that it will just cause an application crash: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2005-1849 but the CVE is also in candidate status which means it hasn't been thoroughly analyzed. -Toshio

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Opening the freemedia form for october.
by susmit shannigrahi 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

Hi, I know the freeze is on. But I need to open the form for october. It is absolutely low risk involving just a $cp . May I? -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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Having more than 6 years of experience in sys admin.
by Nilesh Patil 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

Hi everyone, I am interested to join this group as want to expand my knowledge level as well skills for open community. My recent companies are Yahoo!, Ensim etc where I played sysadmin, qa, hardware roles and would be interested to work with fedora. My skill sets are, freebsd, redhat linux, ubuntu, shell, perl, php, mysql, all protocols like http, ftp, smtp, pop, imap, dns, ntp, squid proxy etc. Expecting really good opportunities to work with you guys! Regards, Nilesh

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Blogs site?
by Mike McGrath 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Whats the status of the blogs site? Is it ready to go? People want to use it :) Where are the directions? -Mike

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