Hi all!
I own this domain (http://fedora.co.in/) since almost 3-4 months and use it to blog about Fedora and Linux related things. I took permission for using Fedora logo from FedoraProject (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo). I am not a RedHat employee and footer in the website says the same. I have changed the website name to "My Fedora". If anybody still have any problem and think that I am defaming FedoraProject or hurting anyone's sentiments, reply to this thread.
PS : I am not going to move my blog to any other domain.
------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Kulbir Saini, Computer Science and Engineering, International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderbad, India - 500032.
My Home-Page: http://saini.co.in/ My Web-Blog: http://fedora.co.in/
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Hello Kulbir,
Kulbir Saini wrote:
Hi all!
I own this domain (http://fedora.co.in/) since almost 3-4 months and use it to blog about Fedora and Linux related things. I took permission for using Fedora logo from FedoraProject (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo). I am not a RedHat employee and footer in the website says the same. I have changed the website name to "My Fedora". If anybody still have any problem and think that I am defaming FedoraProject or hurting anyone's sentiments, reply to this thread.
Thanks for the clarification.
PS : I am not going to move my blog to any other domain.
The Fedora project specifies some guidelines about the usage of its trademark. You might like to take a look at this first and seek clarifications if required.
http://fedoraproject.org/legal/trademarks/guidelines/
regards Runa
Hi!
Hello Kulbir,
Kulbir Saini wrote:
Hi all!
I own this domain (http://fedora.co.in/) since almost 3-4 months and use it to blog about Fedora and Linux related things. I took permission for using Fedora logo from FedoraProject (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo). I am not a RedHat employee and footer in the website says the same. I have changed the website name to "My Fedora". If anybody still have any problem and think that I am defaming FedoraProject or hurting anyone's sentiments, reply to this thread.
Thanks for the clarification.
PS : I am not going to move my blog to any other domain.
The Fedora project specifies some guidelines about the usage of its trademark. You might like to take a look at this first and seek clarifications if required.
A line saying "Fedora, Fedora Logo, FedoraProject and Red Hat are trademarks of Red Hat Inc." in the footer should remove all the ambiguities.
Thanks for guiding :)
regards Runa
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------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Kulbir Saini, Computer Science and Engineering, International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderbad, India - 500032.
My Home-Page: http://saini.co.in/ My Web-Blog: http://fedora.co.in/
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On 27/06/2008, Kulbir Saini kulbirsaini@students.iiit.ac.in wrote:
Hi all!
[..]
PS : I am not going to move my blog to any other domain.
In short main issue with your domain is that it gives a false impression for being a Fedora India community place but it is a personal site.
There may be some complicated trademark violation issues. I said may be. So as Runa said you better clear them.
To me it is ethically wrong to use a domain which conflicts with community interest. But it is your domain so your wish.
On 27/06/2008, Kulbir Saini kulbirsaini@students.iiit.ac.in wrote:
Hi all!
[..]
PS : I am not going to move my blog to any other domain.
In short main issue with your domain is that it gives a false impression for being a Fedora India community place but it is a personal site.
There may be some complicated trademark violation issues. I said may be. So as Runa said you better clear them.
Cleared.
To me it is ethically wrong to use a domain which conflicts with community interest. But it is your domain so your wish.
hrm.. another line in footer "This website doesn't represent Indian Fedora community." should remove this conflict.
PS : I wonder if footer will become larger than the website itself :P
-- Rakesh Pandit
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------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Kulbir Saini, Computer Science and Engineering, International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderbad, India - 500032.
My Home-Page: http://saini.co.in/ My Web-Blog: http://fedora.co.in/
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On 27/06/2008, Kulbir Saini kulbirsaini@students.iiit.ac.in wrote: [..]
hrm.. another line in footer "This website doesn't represent Indian Fedora community." should remove this conflict.
PS : I wonder if footer will become larger than the website itself :P
[..]
In my view conflict resolved to 1% with this very very small footer. if you want it 100% resolved give up using the domain.
Kulbir Saini wrote:
Hi all!
I own this domain (http://fedora.co.in/) since almost 3-4 months and use it to blog about Fedora and Linux related things. I took permission for using Fedora logo from FedoraProject (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo). I am
You took the permission for the logo. But having the site name as Fedora is different than using the logo on your site. This is like me having a site "mcdonalds.co.in" and claiming in the footer that I am not associated with them. While doing that may/may not be perfectly legal, I would like to refrain from doing that on moral grounds. But as suggested, check with trademarks@redhat.com mailto:trademarks@redhat.com.
--Saurabh
PS. Some people might call your actions "cyber squatting" or "domain hijacking", though I am sure you have no such intentions :)
I am not a RedHat employee and footer in the website says the same.
Who cares whether you are a Red Hat employee or not? What difference would it make if you _were_ a Red Hat employee at all?
I have changed the website name to "My Fedora".
You still continue to have things like: "Subscribe to Fedora India by Email. Enter your email address" ... and "Fedora India" is flashing all over the place.
Regards, Debarshi
I am not a RedHat employee and footer in the website says the same.
Who cares whether you are a Red Hat employee or not? What difference would it make if you _were_ a Red Hat employee at all?
I think you are *the* person here who seems to care about it a bit more than you should.
I have changed the website name to "My Fedora".
You still continue to have things like: "Subscribe to Fedora India by Email. Enter your email address" ... and "Fedora India" is flashing all over the place.
My mistake. Things take time to modify.
Regards, Debarshi
------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Kulbir Saini, Computer Science and Engineering, International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderbad, India - 500032.
My Home-Page: http://saini.co.in/ My Web-Blog: http://fedora.co.in/
IRC nick : generalBordeaux Channels : #fedora, #fedora-devel, #yum on freenode -------------------------------------------------------
Who cares whether you are a Red Hat employee or not? What difference would it make if you _were_ a Red Hat employee at all?
I think you are *the* person here who seems to care about it a bit more than you should.
You are constantly harping on this disclaimer, which actually means very little. Instead of having it in tiny letters at the bottom, you should clearly mention in big letters on the top: "THIS SITE IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FEDORA COMMUNITY IN INDIA"
Please try to understand that we are not interested in the legal complications of the issue. As Rakesh said, there is a moral and ethical side to this. No matter how much you disclaim, "fedora.co.in" implies a commercial entity named Fedora in India.
Yes, you are the owner of the domain. Yes, you can still walk away saying I don't want to listen to someone else. But you are kicking a portion of that very community whose work you are apparently writing about in that Website.
If I were you, I would not want to be in that situation. Since I am not you, what you do is entirely upto you.
Regards, Debarshi
On Friday 27 June 2008 05:51:59 pm Kulbir Saini wrote:
I think you are *the* person here who seems to care about it a bit more than you should.
I can assure you that there is a big list of such *the* person in India in the Fedora community. Your comment goes to all of them, just remember that.
Kushal