> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Rohit Gupta <rohit.kgec(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Fedora Workshop:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/KGEC_LUG
> I remember making a request that the page under events should not read
> KGEC_LUG. A LUG is an entity not an event.
We will take care of this in future.
Yes i am checking there was error in your page i noticed and mailed to you
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> Rohit Gupta
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> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:38:19 +0530
> From: Rohit Gupta <rohit.kgec(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [fedora-india] Final Details of 'GNU/Linux User Group of
> To: sherry151 <sherry151(a)gmail.com>, Susmit
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> Date of inauguration Followed by FOSS Events: 18th April, 2009
> 1. The 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' will be the support and
> development group for FOSS (Free and Open Source Software).
> 2. The membership of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' is open to all,
> even from other colleges.
> 3. A candidate will have to Register for membership and join the
> mailing list of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' to be considered as a
> Mailing List: http://groups.google.com/group/kgeclug
> After completing this process, the candidate will be given the membership
> 4. The members of the 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' can request free
> media (CD's and DVD's) of any available Linux Distribution to the
> 5. The members of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' can post all their
> Linux related problems in the Mailing List and can also help with the
> solution of others problem. The Mailing List also has experts from the FOSS
> community to guide and help with the solution.
> 6. There will be a core-committee of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'
> whose members will be sound in Technical Skill.
> 7. The core-committee will help the Linux users (support) and will use
> their skills for contribution to FOSS community (Development).
> 8. The core-committee members will take decisions of 'GNU/Linux User
> Group of KGEC' and carry on FOSS Events.
> 9. The core-committee members will install and maintain few computers
> assigned to the 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' in Library and Computer
> of KGEC.
> 10. The core-committee members will do their work after the college
> (since it is branch and year independent).
> 11. The membership of core-committee is open to all KGEC Students.
> 12. A candidate can get the membership of the core-committee after
> completing the following process:
> a. The candidate will have to be a member of 'GNU/Linux User Group of
> b. The candidate will have to register for membership in core-committee.
> c. The candidate will have to actively participate and work under the
> guidance of the existing core committee.
> d. After a month, the candidate will be considered a member of the
> core-committee if the existing core-committee feels that the candidate has
> worked for the core-committee and is possessing necessary technical skills
> for the post. Skills Required:
> i) The candidate should be able to perform installation and configure a
> Linux System and use it for all basic needs (music, internet, LAN, CD
> writing, etc)
> ii) The candidate should have the knowledge of partitioning and Linux
> iii) The candidate should be able to solve basic problems of users.
> e. The candidate will be given the core-committee membership
> f. If the candidate is still not well suited for the post, he/she will
> have to continue his/her activities with the core-committee for few more
> days as a non core-committee member. Eventually the membership will be
> 13. The Secretary will be the head of core-committee.
> 14. The President will be the head of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'.
> 15. The Treasurer will be in charge of all the Funds of 'GNU/Linux User
> Group of KGEC'.
> Secretary: Rohit Gupta (IT-2nd year, KGEC)
> President: Mr. Kousik Dasgupta (Lecturer, Dept of CSE)
> Treasurer: Prof. Satadal Mal (HOD, Dept. of EE)
> No. of Computers expected and Details:
> a) 1 (one) in Library (already installed).
> b) 5 (Five) from every Department (CSE, EE, IT, ME, ECE, MCA).
> c) The maintainance of computers will be done after college hours (5 pm).
> d)Each computer will have the label as "Maintained by GNU/LUG of KGEC".
> Work already Done:
> 1) Having Successfully conducting an installfest in KGEC. Details:
> Photo Gallery:
> 2) Setting up a computer in the college Library which has public access
> a poster as 'Maintained by GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'.
> 3) Starting the Linux For You Magazine in college. Starting this month
> (April '09).
> 4) We have the full fedora repository (25.7 GB) for Intel architecture. So
> no internet connection required for installation of additional software.
> 5) We have loads of many other different distributions (ubuntu, suse,
> slackware, etc).
> 6) The setting up of full fedora repo in RBC and VC.
> Membership Fees:
> 1. For membership of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' : Rs. 60
> 2. For membership in core-committee of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'
> Rs. 30
As far as I feel, you should not charge anything for membership. A LUG is
very different from a Club or Society. What you can charge for are the
dvd/cds (which you may occasionally throw in for free too). If you have your
LUG T-Shirt then you may charge the junta for them. You can contact training
institutes like NIIT or Aptech for spponsorship. They easily give
substantial amount of money for supporting all of your GNU/LUG based events.
Sent from Delhi, DL, India
Birla Institute of Technology (www.bitmesra.ac.in) is a premier
engineering college located in Mesra which is around 25 Kms from
Ranchi - The state capital of Jharkhand (Formerly a part of Bihar). We
organize a year round event consisting of Lectures and Workshops under
the banner of Community Learning Programs. The audience for these
workshops and lectures include students, teachers and IT
proffessionals from Ranchi area. This year we are planning to hold
better lectures and workshops especially in the field of Linux
administration, Networking and Virtualization. We already have had a
good number of workshops on Linux with the help of the student
community of our college but it would be better to have them conducted
by experts :-).For this purpose we need good and knowledgeable
speakers who can come to the campus of Birla Institute of Technology
and give talks and conduct workshops. The travelling costs of the
visiting speakers (from India) will be covered by us and will be
provided with standard boarding and lodging facilities in the Campus
Fedora India Ambassador
If you had received an ACK for event expenses and, are awaiting
reimbursements, please give me a poke via mail. If you have already
received the monies, please ignore this mail.
You see things; and you say 'Why?';
But I dream things that never were;
and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw
Outline of the Program on 18th April 2009...
1. Inaururation Ceremony.
2. 'Why FOSS' Session
3. ' Fedora Activity Day' -
>However, at this point, I'd like to understand what you intend to
>obtain out of the event ie. what is the objective ? And, more
>importantly, how would you measure the success or failure of the
>effort that you'd be putting in ?
I measure Grand Success in terms of participants understanding FOSS and
agreeing to use FOSS. The number of participants also matter to show the
world the Kick start.
The Program will be a failure if we get no feedback after the Program...
We are prepared for both.
We have a sound Core-Committee consisting of abt. 14 members + more expected
There will be Classes for Core-Committee...
We have seen the interest in Linux in our college and we hope for the former
Secretary, 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' ; Fedora Ambassador
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Pradeepto Bhattacharya
> Also, Sankarshan you are right, a FAQ page mentioning the "Right"
> things to do and with references to important information is a neat
Since we already have a couple of posts on this in the thread, thought
we might need to change subject line. My two cents in the above
mentioned idea of "creating a wiki page" thingi goes below.
Will that *actually* help? We already have too many wiki pages
speaking thousands of lines of "Guidelines". Though "RTFM" is a nice
attitude to learn new things, this is something a new person would not
want to do. Believe me, "how many time experienced opensource people
ask things on IRC, when the thing is very much on some manual or even
google ? "
So the solution (*effective*) could be to tamper with the basic
foundation. Here I see the foundation to be as pradeepto mentioned
"Right there when you go and speak on Fedora and foobar at a univ",
"Right when one encourages some person to become a ambassador". This
IMO must also be part of the ambassador status process and not after
one gets the status and begins to preach fedora to others.
I see the "issue" ( I hate to call this a "Problem" ), as something to
do with more preaching that is happening by the new generation (which
is fantabulously great), but at the same time giving importance to
preaching it right!
Thats it from my side (Sorry, it was more than two cents that I
thought it would be in the beginning ;)
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Pradeepto Bhattacharya
> Sankarshan, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I wasn't in a mood to
> re-write my yesterday's speech ( from some other list ) ;)
Yeah well, what do you know ;)
I took the liberty of editing the $subject to reflect what I was responding to
> OT : Suggestion - maybe before going into this process of creating
> multiple lugs and also Fedora ambassadors there are important things
> to be done like teaching people how to write an email to mailing
> lists. How to read emails? How to think about what is written?
> Such type of emailing etiquette is not doing any good to anybody or
> the community itself.
> So when somebody goes to promote Fedora or start a new lug at a new
> place - maybe she/he needs to tell the audience about a few more
> things other than the standard stuff. How to behave, listen to
> community and work with the community is a good thing to tell them? (
> This also goes for other projects as well.)
And, this isn't off-topic. At least not in my books. I have had a
number of animated discussions with a lot of folks about this. One of
the trends that I notice is that a lot of freshers/younger folks are
coming to Fedora and other projects. The upside is that there is a lot
of fresh minds, the downside is that the earlier mentoring and
coaching which used to happen via *UGs seem to be missing. Add to that
the point which Shakthi had raised - about the Ambassadors and other
participants being more visible and constructive ong the *UGs. We do
have a somewhat unique problem.
There was a time when I used to be the town crier about Producing Open
Source Software. Primarily because it contains elements which are
helpful to the new entrant and, serve as a refresher for the old dog.
I tend to hold to the belief that if Fedora is to lead the advancement
of free and open source software and content through a community of
collaboration, then it is our duty to teach/coach/guide all those who
join us for the ride about the basic foundations of our community and,
the elements that make it tick. Alongside we need to hand hold them
with the fundamental hygiene bits.
So, if someone wants to undertake a small tutorial over IRC on those
bits, I'd love to go to town and exhort a full house.
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Sent from Pune, MH, India
We are forming a 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' in our college. The
Final Details can be found here:
We have a 'free media program' for the members of 'GNU/Linux User
Group of KGEC'.
Our group is not receiving any funds for its functioning from the
college. So, we have applied one time membership fees and the head of
this group from college. If the group fund have less funds, it means
less overall activity like organizing workshops.
We also have a inauguration + FOSS Event day on 18th April 2009. It
also has a FAD ie, Fedora Workshop.
So, we request fedora to sponsor our FAD and the 'Free media Program'
of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'.
Things we Request:
1) 100 Fedora 10 CDs and/or DVDs.
2) Goodies like stikers and badges.
3) Some Fedora fliers to be given to participants.
Fedora Ambassador, Secretary
'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'