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From: Sebastian Vahl <ml(a)deadbabylon.de>
Date: 30 Oct 2007 03:45
Subject: The KDE-SIG needs (your) help
To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com, fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com,
This is a request for participation:
The KDE-SIG  is atm lacking active contributors. And we really need some
help in doing our job to provide a good KDE version in Fedora - especially
with the upcoming KDE 4.0 and the inclusion in Fedora 9.
If you don't know how you could help us here is a list (which is also in the
* Packagers: There are so many interesting packages that are not yet packaged
for Fedora. Package it to improve the user experience.
* Reviewers: Only a few persons are doing the kde-related reviews. Help us
reviewing so that more packages could be included.
* Testers: If you love KDE use the development version or the updates-testing
repository and report bugs, bugs, bugs, request enhancements or features. We
need your feedback to improve KDE.
* Bugs: Become a BugZapper and help us with kde-related bugs.
* Documentation writers: The documentation (esp. the DesktopUserGuide) is
GNOME-centered. Help us to provide an equivalent for KDE.
* Release Notes: The few people that are working on the new KDE-Spin are quite
busy with development issues. If you want to help us in writing the release
notes for the next version of Fedora we would give you all the info you need.
* Wiki: Maintain http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE and keep it updated with
end user information.
* Artists: To provide a matching theme for nodoka-metacity-theme and provide
an unified desktop experience.
But this is not a complete list. If you're interested in making KDE in Fedora
better, you're more than welcome.
The list of participants in the wiki is atm not a list of active contributors.
When setting up the wiki the only demand was an interest in KDE to be listed
on this page. This list would be changed in the future to be culled down to
the list of active (or reactivated) participants. This has become necessarely
because there are only (less or more) 3 active contributors atm (plus Than
Ngo). But the list indicates that there are enough people helping with KDE.
If you are interested in joining the KDE-SIG please add your name to this
list, answer to this mail, join us in #fedora-kde at freenode or attend the
weekly KDE-SIG-Meetings (every tuesday 17:00 UTC). I will also add a topic to
the agenda of the meeting next week to introduce new contributors. 
The attendance at the SIG-Meetings is of course not required. But this way we
would know of each other. And they are also the main place of discussing the
next steps in the development (besides fedora-devel-list).
If you have any further questions please answer to this mail or write me
directly. And be sure: If your are willing to help you're welcome (regardless
of your skills). :)
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Fedora Project day shortlist has been published and we have the largest
project day both in terms of depth and breadth of the talks. Mairin
Duffy also has a main conference talk titled "Community-led Open Source
Art: The Fedora Art Team".
Slides are due 7 days from today, i.e. on Saturday, the 3rd of November!
(Till Indian Standard Time time 12:00 AM, UTC + 5:30)
The alphabetically sorted list is as follows:
1. Amey Inamdar - Fedora-ARM : Call for contributions
2. Debarshi Ray - Opyum: offline package management with Yum
3. Dimitris Glezos - Transifex: Upstream-friendly, community-centric
4. Mairin Duffy - How to Theme Fedora
5. Rahul Bhalerao - Fonts in Fedora
6. Rahul Sundaram - Spin your own Fedora - Custom spins, software
appliances and derivative distributions
7. Rahul Sundaram - Fedora - Freedom is a feature
8. Tom Callaway - Fedora Secondary Architectures: Moving Beyond x86
9. Tom Callaway - Best Practices with RPM
List yourself as a delegate if you are attending
In addition to the above talks, a number of Red Hat folks are
# James Morris - How and Why You Should Be a Kernel Hacker
# James Morris - The State of SELinux
# Lennart Poettering - Introduction into practical real-time programming
in userspace on Linux
# Lennart Poettering - The PulseAudio Sound Server
# Thomas Gleixner - Turning Linux into a Real-time Kernel
# UlrichDrepper - Contributing to the Basic Runtime
Project Days: Gnome
# Lennart Poettering - ZeroConf Networking with Avahi
# Mairin Duffy - Beginners guide to UI design
# Ritesh Khadgaray - hunting bugs
# Runa Bhattacharjee - Gnome Translation Project-Your language on the
# Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay - Bring your own hammer - I have the nails !
Project Days: IndLinux
# Ramakrishna Reddy - Understanding Indic
Project Days: Mozilla
# Ankit Patel - Mozilla Localization
Project Days: OpenOffice.org
# Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay - Is the OpenOffice.org Community in India a
study in meiosis ?
as i say i do a mistake let it be
ok i explain in brief. i am a student of Linux. i am going to install a
fedora at my home but i did not found a single cd/dvd of it. but i get one
of debian one so i install it. but it give my very less package so i ask
for package to sir they give me a cd of it i try to run a apache2 and other
from that cd. i got error
"dependency problem prevent configuration of apache2.utils"
when i ask sir they told that the lib are missing so i ask you because i
created a account for support when i am finding fedora for install
i think this is a general Linux problem so i ask you
and thank you for those who show interest in my question
and last i cant afford install package via net so is package cd are
available or not?
Imagination that is your Creation
since this is my first post i may make mistake but please understand me. i
am a student of Linux i found that the some package can not get install on
my debain it show error that lib not found so there is any way to add the
lib can a copy pest do the job please ans this question if you know
Imagination that is your creation
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From: Atul Chitnis <listadmin(a)linux-bangalore.org>
Date: 6 Oct 2007 23:28
Subject: [foss.in] FOSS.IN/2007: CfP Process Restart
To: "FOSS.IN" <foss-in(a)yahoogroups.com>
This note is going to catch many people by surprise:
As we had explained, over and over: this is a FOSS developer and contributor
conference. We are no longer a FOSS *user* conference.
As was mentioned last year - in the end FOSS is about Free and Open Source
*Software*, and somebody needs to *write* that software.
FOSS.IN is about demolishing the contention that India is a land of FOSS
consumers, with almost no contributors - that we only take, not give back.
Our objective is to enable and jumpstart more FOSS contributors from India.
But most people just don't seem to have understood that, and have submitted
*user* oriented talks (even if they involve development).
We already have more talks than we can schedule in the main conference, but
many of the talks that we have received are not in line with the focus of the
"Using php to create attractive Web 2.0 sites"
"Web hacking tools for XSS, CSRF, etc."
"Building pthon applications using xyz tool"
You get the idea: these are all "using" talks, best summed up with "Using X to
do Y", where X is some technology (usually, but not always FOSS) and
Y could be
anything (including a closed source product or service).
No one is denying that FOSS applications usage is important, BUT FOSS.IN IS
ABOUT DEVELOPING THEM, NOT USING THEM.
To fix this, we are restarting the Call for Participation process.
This is effective immediately, for a period of two weeks, ending Saturday,
This is a very difficult step for us to take, and if we don't get it
time, we are going to end up with serious egg on our faces. It is completely
unprecedented (we haven't heard of any conference ever doing this before), but
to ensure quality and focus at the conference, we have to do it.
And *this* time, we are going to be a little more interactive, to make sure
that we get the kind of talks we want:
First of all, as you are reading this, every talk that has been submitted has
been scrutinised, and either accepted (very few), rejected (more likely) or is
status quo, with a note saying how it needs to be fixed.
Starting from Tuesday, the 9th, any accepted talk will be listed online (we
will post the URL ASAP) complete with abstract, so that people
a. will know that their talk has been accepted
b. can start preparing slides and make travel plans (if needed)
c. can see what kind of talks we are accepting, so that they can orient their
submissions around them.
d. can see what talks are already in place, so they can avoid duplication.
This extension is a double edged sword:
+ More time to submit
This restart gives people more time to submit, and a chance to
understand what kind of talks FOSS.IN is accepting
- Less chance to submit
The longer you wait, the lower your chances will be, as we will close
submissions as soon as all the main conference talks slots have been
filled. Also, the last date for submission of slides WILL NOT CHANGE -
it is still October 22nd, and if you submit your talk on 20th evening,
you only have a day after we approve your talk. Chances are that you
won't make it.
Because of the minus side, you should not wait till the last moment to submit,
because you will almost certainly not be able to meet the slides deadline.
Also, if talks run full before the 20th, we might stop accepting talks for the
Main Conference. Remember, we have only 60 slots, not 200!
Please note that the fact that we have accepted your talk does not mean that
you actually get to speak at the event. You still have to send in your slides,
which we will scrutinise. Any talks found to be too shallow or just badly
thought out will be scrapped.
All this applies to the Project Days submissions as well, except that we will
not publish the Project Days submissions until the end, as the acceptance of
these talks will involve discussion with the Project Days session proposers.
Talks received for Project Days that we find acceptable will be forwarded to
the Project Days proposers, who will then tell us whether the talk will be
included in the Project Days session or not. You can discuss your
submissions with the PD proposers.
We have also noticed that many people by default submit talks to the Main
Conference, probably because they think it has more "prestige".
In reality what it has is a FAR higher chance of rejection.
Unless you are REALLY good, well known for your work, have an
track record and are an active contributor in the work you are talking about,
you probably have no chance of acceptance. And if your talk abstract is as
shallow as some of the ones we have seen, riddled with errors, then you are
Instead, focus on the Project Days, where the rules are marginally laxer, but
remember that the talk *has* to be about the some aspect of the project, and
that it shows people how to contribute to the project.
For example, don't try to submit a talk like "751 reasons why XYZ is the best
Distro". One or two short intro talks for the Project Days session are OK, but
after that it better be about getting involved, what to do, how to
code, how to
write documentation, etc. if in doubt, discuss with the Project Days session
proposer on what is suitable and desired.
The new CfP process is in effect as we speak. We are already rejecting all
those talks we deem to be unsuitable. You will be able to see the status of
your talk by logging into your speaker account, the status of your
talk will be
shown, along with a note from us, if applicable.
Rejected talks cannot be edited, please submit a new talk. You will see the
reason for the rejection in your talks management page
Accepted talks can also not be edited for now - you will be able to fine tune
them after the 22nd.
Talks with status "NEW" or "OPEN" are as yet undecided. If you have a note
there asking you to modify the talk, then do so, else just check back a little
while later. There are a lot of talks that we need to tag.
Many of you will see that your talks have been rejected. Don't go off in a
huff, brandishing a huge chip on your shoulder. Remember, we don't recognise
rockstars. You would be surprised to see some of the big names who have had
their talks rejected. It wasn't because the talks weren't good, but because
they weren't suitable for the conference.
Just like a talk on .NET programming wouldn't fit into a Windows Vista *USER*
conference, non-developer/contributor talks don't fit into FOSS.IN.
Accept that, and submit a new talk. You have 2 weeks to get it right. We will
try and respond to your talk ASAP, to give you as many chances as you need to
get it right.
Go for it.
F O S S . I N / 2 0 0 7
India's Premier FOSS Conference
December 4-8, 2007
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At foss.in , I think I could do a workshop or talk on security
(iptables/selinux/and various tools available on fedora).
That could be helpful for running important servers on fedora.
Has anybody already taken that up?
Please let me know asap, as 8th is the last day for registration.
WBUT (http://wbut.net) is glad to announce the opening up of their
private Fedora mirror for public use.
Probably, this is the first Public fedora mirror in India.(At least I
am not aware of any other.)
Though due to bandwidth constrain we are not considering ourself to be
listed as a official mirror, we may be so in near future.
It follows the standard directory structure and only mirror i386 and x86_64.
Also we don't mirror srpms.
The url is
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Time's running out in case you did not notice. So go ahead *submit your
Meanwhile, we were thinking about:
* laptop stickers
* LiveCD (optional)
as give aways during the Project Day - any thoughts ?
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