Wow! I found an original text version of Star Trek, "Super Star Trek" (SST) that is a teeny tiny little 68k tar file... remember cp/m sized files? This is it! It plays well, just as I remember it. <sighs> The file is at: http://almy.us/sst.html
Also, I found an abandoned Linux project named "Star Trek, The Neutral Zone" at: http://tnz2.cateia.com/ that the author says on this project home page that he's giving it up to open source. It's about 3 1/2 megs and openGL. I'm dnloading it now to check out.
What's a game DVD without a good Star Trek? <grins> Ric
Ric Moore wrote:
Wow! I found an original text version of Star Trek, "Super Star Trek" (SST) that is a teeny tiny little 68k tar file... remember cp/m sized files? This is it! It plays well, just as I remember it. <sighs> The file is at: http://almy.us/sst.html
Also, I found an abandoned Linux project named "Star Trek, The Neutral Zone" at: http://tnz2.cateia.com/ that the author says on this project home page that he's giving it up to open source. It's about 3 1/2 megs and openGL. I'm dnloading it now to check out.
What's a game DVD without a good Star Trek? <grins> Ric
A Games DVD which doesn't violate any trademarks?
Regards,
Hans
Ric Moore wrote:
Wow! I found an original text version of Star Trek, "Super Star Trek" (SST) that is a teeny tiny little 68k tar file... remember cp/m sized files? This is it! It plays well, just as I remember it. <sighs> The file is at: http://almy.us/sst.html
Also, I found an abandoned Linux project named "Star Trek, The Neutral Zone" at: http://tnz2.cateia.com/ that the author says on this project home page that he's giving it up to open source. It's about 3 1/2 megs and openGL. I'm dnloading it now to check out.
What's a game DVD without a good Star Trek? <grins> Ric
A Games DVD which doesn't violate any trademarks?
What about a total rebrand, a la ArmaCycles-AD? :)
Regards,
Hans
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Jon Ciesla wrote:
Ric Moore wrote:
Wow! I found an original text version of Star Trek, "Super Star Trek" (SST) that is a teeny tiny little 68k tar file... remember cp/m sized files? This is it! It plays well, just as I remember it. <sighs> The file is at: http://almy.us/sst.html
Also, I found an abandoned Linux project named "Star Trek, The Neutral Zone" at: http://tnz2.cateia.com/ that the author says on this project home page that he's giving it up to open source. It's about 3 1/2 megs and openGL. I'm dnloading it now to check out.
What's a game DVD without a good Star Trek? <grins> Ric
A Games DVD which doesn't violate any trademarks?
What about a total rebrand, a la ArmaCycles-AD? :)
Possible,
But then we would also need to rename characters, possibly races and ships too.
Regards,
Hans
Hans de Goede wrote:
Jon Ciesla wrote:
Ric Moore wrote:
Wow! I found an original text version of Star Trek, "Super Star Trek" (SST) that is a teeny tiny little 68k tar file... remember cp/m sized files? This is it! It plays well, just as I remember it. <sighs> The file is at: http://almy.us/sst.html
Also, I found an abandoned Linux project named "Star Trek, The Neutral Zone" at: http://tnz2.cateia.com/ that the author says on this project home page that he's giving it up to open source. It's about 3 1/2 megs and openGL. I'm dnloading it now to check out.
What's a game DVD without a good Star Trek? <grins> Ric
A Games DVD which doesn't violate any trademarks?
What about a total rebrand, a la ArmaCycles-AD? :)
Possible,
But then we would also need to rename characters, possibly races and ships too.
Spot,
Any input on this?
Rahul
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 14:06 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Spot,
Any input on this?
Ugh. If we wanted to do this, we'd need to sanitize it six ways from Sunday, and I'd have to spend a lot of time with the US Trademark Search engine seeing what Paramount/CBS actually owns.
I know that they hold:
Klingon Romulan Star Trek
It would be a safe bet to assume that all "star trek" alien races of any significance are trademarked.
To be on the safe side, we would want to avoid using any remotely trademarkable item that has appeared in an ST tv show or movie.
Yeah, that sucks, but Paramount/CBS fiercely protects their property, and this is a heavily merchandized field (just look at how many licensed ST computer games exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_games#Video_games ).
Alternately, we could ask Paramount/CBS. *snicker* I think you know what that will bring. ;)
So, if and only if someone goes through and removes everything trademarked from it... and does it correctly...
For example:
Captain John U. Quirk [OK] Captain James S. Kirk [NOT OK] Captain Jane T. Kirk [NOT OK] Lt. Spok [NOT OK] Lt. Squawk [OK]
... if that was done, I would be willing to audit it, and if it gets by me, we could include it.
:)
~spot
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 09:31:00AM -0500, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 14:06 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Spot, Any input on this?
Ugh. If we wanted to do this, we'd need to sanitize it six ways from Sunday, and I'd have to spend a lot of time with the US Trademark Search engine seeing what Paramount/CBS actually owns. I know that they hold:
Klingon Romulan Star Trek
Also, the letter Q.
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 09:31:00AM -0500, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 14:06 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Spot, Any input on this?
Ugh. If we wanted to do this, we'd need to sanitize it six ways from Sunday, and I'd have to spend a lot of time with the US Trademark Search engine seeing what Paramount/CBS actually owns. I know that they hold:
Klingon Romulan Star Trek
Also, the letter Q.
Or red shirts.
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On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 09:31 -0500, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
Captain John U. Quirk [OK] Captain James S. Kirk [NOT OK] Captain Jane T. Kirk [NOT OK] Lt. Spok [NOT OK] Lt. Squawk [OK]
Captain J.Q. Public, of the USS Fedora, on a mission to free the galaxy from the tyranny of the Closesrcs.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 09:31 -0500, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
Captain John U. Quirk [OK] Captain James S. Kirk [NOT OK] Captain Jane T. Kirk [NOT OK] Lt. Spok [NOT OK] Lt. Squawk [OK]
Captain J.Q. Public, of the USS Fedora, on a mission to free the galaxy from the tyranny of the Closesrcs.
Why must you mock us so? (ducks)
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On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:55 -0600, Callum Lerwick wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 09:31 -0500, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
Captain John U. Quirk [OK] Captain James S. Kirk [NOT OK] Captain Jane T. Kirk [NOT OK] Lt. Spok [NOT OK] Lt. Squawk [OK]
Captain J.Q. Public, of the USS Fedora, on a mission to free the galaxy from the tyranny of the Closesrcs.
How about "Phasers" and "Photon Torpedo's"? I invite you to rename them as well, Callum ...you do seem to have a handle on this situation!! <grins> Ric
On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 21:09 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
How about "Phasers" and "Photon Torpedo's"? I invite you to rename them as well, Callum ...you do seem to have a handle on this situation!! <grins> Ric
We could perhaps use the terms from "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning": Twinklers and Light Balls. :]
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 22:29 -0800, Peter Gordon wrote:
On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 21:09 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
How about "Phasers" and "Photon Torpedo's"? I invite you to rename them as well, Callum ...you do seem to have a handle on this situation!! <grins> Ric
We could perhaps use the terms from "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning": Twinklers and Light Balls. :]
Stop! You're hurting me I'm laughing so hard! Perfect!! <howls> Ric
Jon Ciesla wrote:
Ric Moore wrote:
Wow! I found an original text version of Star Trek, "Super Star Trek" (SST) that is a teeny tiny little 68k tar file... remember cp/m sized files? This is it! It plays well, just as I remember it. <sighs> The file is at: http://almy.us/sst.html
Also, I found an abandoned Linux project named "Star Trek, The Neutral Zone" at: http://tnz2.cateia.com/ that the author says on this project home page that he's giving it up to open source. It's about 3 1/2 megs and openGL. I'm dnloading it now to check out.
What's a game DVD without a good Star Trek? <grins> Ric
A Games DVD which doesn't violate any trademarks?
What about a total rebrand, a la ArmaCycles-AD? :)
Possible,
But then we would also need to rename characters, possibly races and ships too.
Depending on the route taken with that, we could take advantage of the fact that U.S. law is highly protective of parody, so long as it's original, i.e., send up Star Trek, but not the same way Mad Magazine did. . .
Regards,
Hans
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 02:48 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
Wow! I found an original text version of Star Trek, "Super Star Trek" (SST) that is a teeny tiny little 68k tar file... remember cp/m sized files? This is it! It plays well, just as I remember it. <sighs> The file is at: http://almy.us/sst.html
That appears to have branched off the UT Fortran version, which is not the original:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/maury/games/space/star_trek.html
I own a tattered copy of "Basic Computer Games" that has a rather long listing for Super Star Trek that I've always wanted to play but I never did get the whole thing typed in. Which included porting it to GFA Basic 2.0 on the Atari ST I was using at the time. IIRC I got partway and lost it in a disk failure. Stupid floppies. ;P
http://www.atariarchives.org/basicgames/showpage.php?page=157
Though I did eventually get to play a version of it on a Mac SE circa 1994. The existence of which I can't seem to find on the Web anymore. I don't think it was Star Patrol.
There's also OpenTrek:
I own a tattered copy of "Basic Computer Games" that has a rather long listing for Super Star Trek that I've always wanted to play but I never did get the whole thing typed in. Which included porting it to GFA Basic 2.0 on the Atari ST I was using at the time. IIRC I got partway and lost it in a disk failure. Stupid floppies. ;P
I have that book too! The front cover is right next to it! :) I actually typed in the whole thing and ran it using AmigaBASIC. Once that was done, I spent the next month on bugfixes. I'd still be playing it if my Amiga 500 hadn't passed away. :~( Still have it on floppies, but of course without an Amiga floppy drive and it's odd sector handling, I'll never read them.
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 15:13:11 -0600, Callum Lerwick seg@haxxed.com wrote:
I own a tattered copy of "Basic Computer Games" that has a rather long listing for Super Star Trek that I've always wanted to play but I never did get the whole thing typed in. Which included porting it to GFA Basic 2.0 on the Atari ST I was using at the time. IIRC I got partway and lost it in a disk failure. Stupid floppies. ;P
Some guys I knew made their own significant changes to an existing Star Trek program in the late 70s that was written in basic. They were both named Mike and one's last name was Lampi, I have forgotten the other's. They may still have a copy of the game saved somewhere. It was liked in our group at the time. They ran a tournament one weekend and got the local TV news people to cover it.