Hi,
One of the advantages of custom spins are that they can release asynchronously as per http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins. There is a lot of interest in the games spin and it has maximum number of downloads among the Fedora 8 custom spins.
http://spins.fedoraproject.org:6969/
I am interested in doing a mid release games spin update if there are enough additional games or interesting updates to existing games. It also has the additional advantage of fixing bugs or providing new features in other software included in the spin. Are there compelling reasons to provided a updated spin now? Would that be better as a CD image variant?
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I am interested in doing a mid release games spin update if there are enough additional games or interesting updates to existing games. It also has the additional advantage of fixing bugs or providing new features in other software included in the spin. Are there compelling reasons to provided a updated spin now? Would that be better as a CD image variant?
I freshly installed for a relative of mine the games spin about a week ago, added a bit of multimedia and then ran "yum update". The number and total size of packages updated was huge, so I think this *is* a compelling reason (I did a screenshot at the time with the intention to blog about this but had not enough free time).
A CD image variant is, I think, orthogonal to the DVD spin. An update for the DVD spin should be in DVD format and a CD image would target another niche of users (and it has to include a careful selection of games, "best of breed").
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I am interested in doing a mid release games spin update if there are enough additional games or interesting updates to existing games. It also has the additional advantage of fixing bugs or providing new features in other software included in the spin. Are there compelling reasons to provided a updated spin now? Would that be better as a CD image variant?
I freshly installed for a relative of mine the games spin about a week ago, added a bit of multimedia and then ran "yum update". The number and total size of packages updated was huge, so I think this *is* a compelling reason (I did a screenshot at the time with the intention to blog about this but had not enough free time).
I would be interested to hear from game packagers too as to the compelling new features in the games included in the spin. Is there any modifications to the package list desirable? I have added uqm, Pychess and Alien Arena based on user requests.
There are two things still on the wishlist
1) Warsom - Gaming engine is Quake 3. Cartoon style action. Gaming data is non-free afaik but could potentially use autodownloader
2) Second Life - Not really a game but is under popular demand. Review is ongoing at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233946. If we could speed up the process a bit, it would be very much appreciated.
A CD image variant is, I think, orthogonal to the DVD spin. An update for the DVD spin should be in DVD format and a CD image would target another niche of users (and it has to include a careful selection of games, "best of breed").
I would like to get some help with this. Suggestions welcome.
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I am interested in doing a mid release games spin update if there are enough additional games or interesting updates to existing games. It also has the additional advantage of fixing bugs or providing new features in other software included in the spin. Are there compelling reasons to provided a updated spin now? Would that be better as a CD image variant?
I freshly installed for a relative of mine the games spin about a week ago, added a bit of multimedia and then ran "yum update". The number and total size of packages updated was huge, so I think this *is* a compelling reason (I did a screenshot at the time with the intention to blog about this but had not enough free time).
I would be interested to hear from game packagers too as to the compelling new features in the games included in the spin. Is there any modifications to the package list desirable? I have added uqm, Pychess and Alien Arena based on user requests.
There are two things still on the wishlist
- Warsom - Gaming engine is Quake 3. Cartoon style action. Gaming data
is non-free afaik but could potentially use autodownloader
Warsow not warsom, and last time I checked the game data was freely redistributable (no modification allowed).
Other then that, nogravity (currently under review) would make a nice addition and probably others too, development / adding new games has been going on as usual, so quite a few new / updated games have been added.
Regards,
Hans
Hans de Goede wrote:
Warsow not warsom, and last time I checked the game data was freely redistributable (no modification allowed).
Ah yes, I keep forgetting we allow redistributable content and not just content that permits modification.
Other then that, nogravity (currently under review) would make a nice addition and probably others too, development / adding new games has been going on as usual, so quite a few new / updated games have been added.
Do you have specific games already in the repository that you consider good candidates to be in games spin?
Rahul
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 18:38:56 +0200, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro wrote:
I freshly installed for a relative of mine the games spin about a week ago, added a bit of multimedia and then ran "yum update". The number and total size of packages updated was huge, so I think this *is* a compelling reason (I did a screenshot at the time with the intention to blog about this but had not enough free time).
You might want to wait for the imminent Unity release. I believe they are planning to include an update.img file that will fix the yum hang and/or the 586/686 detection problem. It will probably be worth grabbing any fixes they have for the installer that wouldn't be picked up by just using updated packages.