Hi Bernard,

I agree with some of the translation as improper, but definitely not all. We have derived translations after discussion long time back. and now, we are going to standardize it with the help of FUEL event on 26th and 27th December as I mentioned in my earlier announcement, where experts will join the effort.

Many of the below mentioned things are difficult to explain over the email, why "પાનાં જાણકારી" is used instead of "પાનાંની જાણકારી" and why there are multiple translations are being used like "પ્રત્યુત્તર" or "જવાબ આપવો". There are number of factors played for whatever is mentioned below.

I would be really happy if you and your wife joins the Gujarati localization team and contribute to the localization efforts by translating. Let me know, if you are interested!


Thanks!
Ankit


From: Rajesh Ranjan <rajesh672@gmail.com>
To: fuel-discuss@lists.fedorahosted.org
Sent: Fri, 25 December, 2009 11:21:56 AM
Subject: Re: (ir)relevence of English words in translations



2009/12/24 Bernard Massot <bmassot@free.fr>
Le 21/12/2009 13:08, Ankit Patel a écrit :
> Gujarati community (indianoss-gujarati@lists.sf.net) is more than
> happy to have new contributors. Bug reports, are always welcome.
>
> Btw, we will be having FUEL Gujarati meet soon. I will send invites to
> all interested when we fix the dates and availabilities of the attendees.
>
> Thanks!
> Ankit
I read carefuly the list on
https://fedorahosted.org/fuel/wiki/fuel-gujarati with my wife. For each
word I asked her whether she understood it and we discuss some of them
in details.

Here is the list of the terms she didn't understand: એન્કર, ગાળક,
સત્તાધિકરણ, બુકમાર્ક, કેપ્શન, કોન્સોલીડેટ, વૈવિધ્યપૂર્ણ, માહિતીપાયલોટ, ડેસ્કટોપ,
ડિસ્પ્લે, ડાઉનલોડ, ડ્રાફ્ટો, એક્સટેન્સનો, આઈડ્રોપર, ફોલ્ડર, ફોન્ટ, ફુટર, ફુટનોંધ,
વિધેય, ગ્રાફિક્સ, હેડર, હાયબરનેટ, હાયપરલીંક, ઈનબોક્સ, ઈનપુટ, મેક્રો, નેવિગેટર,
આઉટબોક્સ, પ્લગ-ઈન, ફરી સુયોજીત કરો, સ્ક્રીનસેવર, સ્ક્રિપ્ટ, શીટ, સ્લાઈડ, સ્પ્રેડશીટ,
ગૌણ સરવાળો, ટેમ્પલેટો, ટર્મિનલ, વિઝાર્ડો, પેનલો, એનીમેટ થયેલ ઈમેજ, ડેટાબેઝ, કેરેટ,
ટેબ, ગ્રેસ્કેલ, લોન્ચર, લોકેલ, એનીમેશન, ડિબગ, ડિજીટલ, નેટવર્કીંગ, બ્રાઉઝર, ગ્લુ,
હેન્ડઆઉટ, કન્સોલ, કીરીંગ, મેઈલિંગ, મીડિયા પ્લેયર, પ્રોક્સી, સર્વરો, પેકેજ, સુયોજન,
રીઝોલ્યુશન, સ્વીચર, લોગ, મોનીટર, સ્ક્રીનશોટ, વર્ડ પ્રોસેસર, ઓફલાઈન, બુલેટો, થ્રેડો,
કસ્ટમ, ટેલીફોની, કોન્ફરન્સીંગ, લોજીકલ, મર્જ, મલ્ટીમીડિયા, ડ્રાઈવો, ફાયરવોલ,
સ્માર્ક કાર્ડ and જ્યુસર.
There is a lot of words but the majority of them are pure
transliterations from English, which confirms what I said earlier. For
some of the unknown words among the Gujarati ones, my wife said the must
have known them while studying but forgot them since then.

Here are some remarks :
- sometimes there are several translations for one meaning :
આપમેળે/આપોઆપ/સ્વયં (auto-), ક્રિયા/બાબત (task), વિષયસુચી/સમાવિષ્ટો (contents),
કાઢી નાંખો/દૂર કરો (delete), જાતે/માનવીય (manual), પ્રત્યુત્તર/જવાબ આપો (reply)

- some translantions look wrong : buddies -> વ્યક્તિઓ (could be મિત્ર),
convert -> ફેરવો (could be રુપાંતર કરવો), data -> માહિતી (could be સામગ્રી),
duplicate -> નકલી (could be બહુરૂપી), revert -> ઉલટાવો (could be પુનઃલાવો),
archive -> પેટી (don't know how to say), statistic -> પરિસ્થિતિ (could be
આંકડા), existing -> હાલની (not sur of the translation), please -> મહેરબાની
કરીને (sounds awkward, translating it is just unnecessary), answer ->
પ્રત્યુત્તર (જવાબ is far more common), user -> વપરાશકર્તા (વાપરનાર sounds
more natural)

- sometimes there is a single translation for several meanings : શોધો
(search/find), સુધારો, વિસ્તાર (area/range), પ્રવેશ, ચિહ્નો (marks/icons)
- beware : પાનાં જાણકારી should be પાનાંની જાણકારી. I saw this one a lot
in Gujarati as well in Hindi, but according to what I learnt and what
say native speakers, the former one is incorrect, and I believe it's a
literal translation from English.

I hope this work (it took some time) will help you improving Gujarati Fuel.
--
Bernard

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Thanks a lot Bernard. 
Bernard, pl say my thanks to your wife also!


--
Regards,
Rajesh Ranjan
www.kramashah.blogspot.com


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