On Mon, 2017-01-23 at 20:48 +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote:
On 01/18/2017 02:41 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> Hiya,
> <snip>
Hey Ankur, thanks for getting the ball rolling. I think many of us
have
been having a busy start to 2017, which might attribute to some of
the
quietness.
Yea - I'm still buried under piles of answer scripts to mark. I haven't
even managed to work on my PhD research this week!! :(
>
<snip>
Something that Brian Exelbierd and I have been discussing is the idea
of
a "Help Wanted Wednesday" series either on the Community Blog or
Fedora
Magazine. The idea of this would be to highlight some "easyfix" sort
of
tasks that we could wave newcomers towards when they ask about
something
to get started with.
Additionally, the motive behind this effort wasn't to have
contributors
scouting out easyfix tickets, but rather, to have contributors bring
them to the team / group that would compile the series. This way, the
stress isn't loaded onto a small number of people, but rather,
multiple
people from various parts of the community would be motivated to
bring
their easyfix tickets or issues to us so that way they can gain
interested newcomers to their parts of the project.
This idea is hardly fleshed out or discussed much, but perhaps this
is
something we could try to make a goal for the Join SIG or work
closely
with CommOps to make it happen.
That sounds like a good idea. As always, I'm worried about the work
that'll be needed, and who will do it. We already have "easyfix" and I
expect it's been around long enough for the community to be aware of
it. Some metrics on whether people are aware of easyfix and whether
it's being used or not in projects would get us a better idea - more
work, though. Devs may not want to take the extra step of getting in
touch with a team to promote their tasks - it's extra work.
Do you think we could start with a automated post (maybe bi-weekly "New
easyfix tasks that need your help"?) or an RSS feed of easy fix tasks
to promote "easyfix" first (on start.fp.o or the planet)?
Idea: reward folks that mark tasks as "easyfix" with a badge series
Idea: reward folks that take up "easyfix" tasks with badges too
these don't already exist, do they?
If we have active folks in other parts of Fedora, like the Fedora
Forums, Reddit, or more places, we can encourage them to share these
posts there. And there could be a tie-in to promote the Join SIG as
the
"go-to" place if you have problems or questions while getting
started.
This would be great. We certainly have quite a presence in various
social media networks. For reference:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_social_networks
> - It'll be awesome if we can add a note about Fedora Join on
wcidff
> too. I'd opened a ticket long ago here already:
https://github.com/
> fedo
> ra-infra/asknot-ng/issues/75
>
> Are there any other channels that we can use to make ourselves more
> visible outside the community?
>
I definitely think Telegram has a strong potential, especially the
unofficial Fedora group. It is larger than our IRC channel by the
hundreds – we're close to hitting the 700 member mark soon. I also
think
there is a notable number of folks there who are interested in
contributing, but might need to be reeled in or given direction to
get
started. Finding a way to target this group of users could be a good
idea.
Other platforms we could use would be social media accounts and
Reddit.
There's probably more too, if I went digging for a bit.
Ah! Yes! I forgot Telegram! I'm in the group too, but I really haven't
been able to monitor it too often. I do like telegram, but like
everything else, people have their preferences. Not a lot of my non
techie friends are on it, for example.
#fedora on IRC at the moment has about 600 people in it:
13:38 -!- Irssi: #fedora: Total of 611 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0
voices, 609 normal]
I remember reading something about hubs and IRC (probably this:
https://meghanrichardson.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/irc-on-hubs/ ),
so we should continue to keep IRC in our plans. It may seem more dev
oriented, but once the hubs provide a nice front end to our various
channels, it should be a lot easier for people to get on to them.
>
<snip>
> > - Mentoring
>
>
> <snip>
I definitely think the ultimate priority for discussing this should
be
making it sustainable. I love the idea of a mentoring program, but as
past experiences has shown us, people get burnt out and we don't have
a
good way of bringing in more mentors. This could be a good goal for a
next meeting (I know we've fallen off a bit with them, but we should
definitely get the ball rolling again once you're back on a regular
schedule, Ankur).
We've got this here. Let's begin adding our comments to it in the
meantime:
https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/18
>
<snip>
I like this idea as well, but I'm wondering if this is something we
will
be able to feasibly pull off. I'm leaning towards saying this is
something to place onto the backburner and revisit after we reach
some
of the other goals mentioned above.
Yea. This is in the "nice to have" bucket. Related tickets:
https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/15
https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/20
> - Classrooms
>
> Anyone for bringing these back? They were great to get folks
> started (I
> started contributing through a font packaging classroom session
> myself!).
>
Personally, I love the idea and think we could pull this off if we
have
some clear on-boarding for existing contributors to run a classroom
without too much effort. Fedora Infrastructure already has a "Learn
it!"
part of their agenda, where a member can volunteer to use part of the
meeting to explain a new concept and have other Infra members ask
questions. Patrick Uiterwijk did an excellent one on some of the
authentication tools used in Fedora, so it could be a good idea to
warm
up with them with some of the ones from the past in Infra.
In either case, getting some sort of "classroom how-to" is definitely
an
attainable goal for the coming month or two, and perhaps we could try
to
set a deadline for when we would want to try attempting the next
classroom.
I think there's enough to restart class room sessions already:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom
It used to work really well. It's just dormant due to the lack of
activity.
Idea: reward classroom teacher with a badge series
Idea: reward people that attend classrooms with badges too
>
<snip>
I apologize for the slow response here. Keeping up over the holidays
was
more difficult than I anticipated and I'm still getting unburied from
late December / early January emails. But I should start being a
little
more present in coming weeks, especially after FOSDEM concludes on
Feb. 5th.
Thanks for your time writing this all up, Ankur! Hope you had an
excellent holiday and New Year as well.
I hope to be more regular too, although, my PhD controls my cycles so
we'll have to wait and see. I hope we can bring in enough folks so that
the work is distributed well enough to make our activities sustainable.
One or two of us running this isn't going to work in the long term.
--
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha