On 15 August 2012 15:31, BJ Dierkes <derks(a)bjdierkes.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Stephen John Smoogen
> On 15 August 2012 15:13, BJ Dierkes <derks(a)bjdierkes.com
> > I am the maintainer, as well as the upstream developer of
'python-cement', a CLI Application Framework for Python . Current version of
python-cement in EPEL 5/6 is 0.8.18, however I recently released version 2.0.0 upstream
which is the next/current stable version. The 0.8.x/1.0.x branch is dead upstream and no
longer maintained, and for that reason I would like to request the ability to break
compatibility and upgrade EPEL to the latest stable and supported version of Cement.
> > This is a completely incompatible upgrade. Applications written on top of Cement
0.8.x would need significant changes (or a full rewrite of all the CLI pieces) to work
with Cement 2.0.x. That said, there are no packages in EPEL that Requires: python-cement.
Presumably there are users that are using python-cement for non-EPEL software however that
is obviously not possible to know whether it is a significant number or not. Based on
feedback, I don't think many people are using Cement 0.8.x but I really couldn't
> > Currently there are no known bugs or security issues with python-cement in EPEL
as it stands, therefore it is not eligible for an 'incompatible upgrade'. That
said, based on usage and its upstream status… I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.
> 1) Would it be possible to make a package called python-cement2 which
> would track this chain and then you could dead package the old one if
> no one wants to maintain that tree?
I could do that, but it would mean one of two things right?
a) python-cement2 Conflicts with python-cement
We usually go for this unless the module can be dual installed.
b) python-cement2 patches the source so the module is
'cement2' (no good)
Using the conflicts model, I would probably rather add it to the IUS Community Project
 which does that explicitly for all packages, and in EPEL its kind of a hack.
If it is a hack in EPEL, how can we do this better?
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