On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 17:29, Jeff Sheltren <jeff(a)osuosl.org> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Michael Stahnke
<mastahnke(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure it's upstream hurting users. EPEL won't move the
> version of cfengine or puppet (although we have moved puppet in the
> past) for the EL4/5 systems. Thus the choice is either get the latest
> from epel and rebuild the latest on the older systems, or the opposite
> try and build the old package on the newer EL version. Either way,
> it's a dis-service to everybody involved because the packages are not
> in step with each other across distros. This often leads to people
> complaining about EPEL and then rolling their own packages or tarball
> or gem installations into their environment.
>
> The reason EPEL normally doesn't move these packages is that they
> often times do introduce API/ABI breakage, so I'm not sure what the
> best answer is, but I know I would still want all of my servers to be
> managed through the same policies and at the same client version so I
> have the same features available to everything inside my
> infrastructure.
>
> stahnma
>
In the case of cfengine, v2 vs. v3: v2 is no longer supported at all
from upstream. However, I'm pretty sure that v2 clients will work
fine with a v3 server (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).
Because v2 is no longer supported upstream I'm hard pressed to find a
reason to support it in EPEL6 onwards.
No they are completely different in the same way that usually puppet
breaks support. A v2 box is not going to understand 'promises' or
other syntax. I doubt very much v2 will get any more support.
Cfengine 3 is where Mark Burgess is wanting to get corporate support
as he has a business behind it. The C2 code is a mess.. listening to
Luke Kanies it was the reason that he didn't fork it but just went
with a fresh start with puppet.
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