<couf> all righty, roll up your sleeves
<couf> meeting topics:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings
<jmbuser> go for it
* couf has changed the topic to: Fedora Documentation -- guide status
<couf> How are we doing on the DUG and AG?
<jmbuser> jmbuser: Interest remains high in producing a quality DUG,
as witnessed by the mailing list.
* jmbuser excuses himself for mumbling to himself
* couf missed this weeks productivity, been working nuts
<jmbuser> I am now the beat writers for docs, so read all about it
<couf> cool jmbuser
<jmbuser> couf: Not much else to report - hoping to do some revisions
myself and encourage others to do the same
<jmbuser> couf: I am encouraged by new volunteers with fresh energy and ideas
<jmbuser> end of my DUG report
<couf> as I said, I've been out of the loop, so I've got to catch up with
the AG
* stickster appreciates jmbuser making objectives clear on ML
<jmbuser> stickster: Thanks
<couf> other guides we need to touch?
<jmbuser> Is Admin Guide ready for publication?
* quaid comes by purely out of chance but chooses to hang out
<jmbuser> quaidL Howdy!
<couf> jmbuser: for my part, not yet, it's still a bit scaterred
information, it needs some integration works
<couf> foundation is great, and I'm thankfull for all the work that's
gone in too it, but it misses some coherence
<jmbuser> couf: That suggests freezing the content and doing an editorial pass.
<stickster> I think there are people still asking on the list about
subject matter areas to include
<stickster> Those discussions should probably be explored and
concluded before we freeze
* EvilBob is glad to see quaid's name on the FUDCon list
<couf> stickster: true that
<jmbuser> couf: Next agenda item?
<couf> I'm wondering if we want to put some deadlines on that work?
<couf> as in, get it done before we dive into the release-specific stuff again
<jmbuser> couf: +1
<couf> current schedule, says 24 Jan is alpha-release notes deadline
<couf>
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule
<stickster> couf: Now that you're back, you can probably crack some
whips on the list
<couf> okidoki
<couf> so next up:
* couf has changed the topic to: Fedora Documentation -- elections
<couf>
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2007-December/msg00011.html
<couf> I remember us all agreeing that this was doable, although, we
might have a slight problem:
<couf> ambassadors election has been moved back a week, due to lack of nominees
<couf> it might happen that they don't have an election, but if they
do, we're having it at the same time
<couf> and the voting app can't cope with dual elections
<EvilBob> well if ambassadors needs to reschedule they should now
have to reschedule around us
<quaid> ah, voting app limitations
<jmbuser> I recall John adding FDSCo election to the official schedule
<quaid> EvilBob: +1 true that\
<couf> jmbuser: correct,
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f9/f-9-all-details.html
<couf> well then, we missed our start, nominations should be open right now
<EvilBob> It should not be our projects fault that not enough people
care about ambassadors leadership, if we ave to wait until they have
an election we might never get our turn.
<couf> EvilBob: right
<stickster> We have three seats up this time?
<EvilBob> stickster: correct
<quaid> argh, sorry meant to send a note
* jmbuser throws his hat in the rng
<jmbuser> s /rng/ ring/
<quaid> about the nominations start
* jmbuser is running on his typing skills :-)
* stickster moves we clear out the current nominations page and make
way for new writeups
<couf> yeah, mine, jmbuser's and pawel's seat are up for election
* stickster hopes you guys will be putting yourselves in for re-election
<EvilBob> lets just get this rolling, announce the opening NOW, and
stick to our other dates
<EvilBob> it is not like the opening for nominations has been a secret
<jmbuser> +1
<stickster> True dat, it was posted to the mailing list
<stickster> did it make Fedora News?
<stickster> oops, s/News/Weekly News/
<jmbuser> I put it in for this week
<EvilBob> that I don't know but it can be in tomorrow's
<jmbuser> complete with dates
<jmbuser> EvilBob: It's in tomorrow's edition
* quaid sends note about nominations being open
<stickster> I'm blogging it too.
<quaid> good
<couf> yep, I'll blog it too
<couf> okay, the rest of the election process has been done already, so
* couf has changed the topic to: Fedora Documentation -- AOB
<jmbuser> +1
<EvilBob> FUDCon
* couf can't come :-(
<EvilBob> I see three of us on the list, are we doing anything Docs
related to get some fresh blood?
<EvilBob> I see "Developer Guide Reboot -- Paul W. Frields"
<jmbuser> likewise :-(
<stickster> Yup, this is a pet project of mine, but I want to find
out at FUDCon what the developers think
<stickster> I should probably blog something in advance too to gather input
<EvilBob> I would really like to put together a Packaging guide,
maybe FUDCon is the right place to look at that again.
<stickster> I want to canonize current documentation on Fedora code
development. This could be a difficult project depending on how much
is projected to change over the next cycle with packaging +
engineering.
<couf> great idea stickster
<stickster> I want to be careful to avoid trying to pack fast-moving
targets into a Development Guide because it will simply create
maintenance nightmares.
<EvilBob> Working on my SIG
(
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/AmateurRadio) I have found a lot
of holes in the existing packaging stuff on the wiki
<stickster> But there is a lot that could be written up to get people
started on Fedora as a development platform, including software setup
and tips.
<stickster> EvilBob: Have you brought it up with the Packaging committee?
<stickster> spot is pretty darned good about coverage in the
packaging docs, the majority of which he's worked on or written
<EvilBob> stickster: it is all about "experience" really
<EvilBob> stickster: yeah spot has been a big help
<EvilBob> I would really like us to do the "multi-location" hackfest
for FUDCon if we have stuff to work on.
<jmbuser> +1
* stickster is into that idea.
<couf> +1 too
* couf needs to run for a bit
<quaid> word
<jmbuser> Any other business?
<EvilBob> nope
<EvilBob> wrap it up
<jmbuser> +1
<stickster> +1
<EvilBob> In 60
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<EvilBob> </meeting>