00:01:45 <jjmcd> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting 2010-01-21 00:01:45 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 21 00:01:45 2010 UTC. The chair is jjmcd. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:01:45 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 00:01:58 <jjmcd> #topic roll call 00:02:04 * jjmcd . 00:02:09 * quaid 00:02:21 * rudi is here but not with 100% attention... 00:03:19 <jjmcd> Sorry if a little disorganized. I only found out sparks was AWOL a couple minutes ago 00:03:39 <jjmcd> #topic F13 Release Schedule 00:03:46 * laubersm stands in the back 00:03:52 <jjmcd> #link http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-docs-and-trans-tasks.ht... 00:04:05 <jjmcd> Don't be hiding laubersm 00:04:23 <jjmcd> ANyone have any comments, difficulties etc with the F13 schedule? 00:05:03 <jjmcd> I was unable to find my notes for John and haven't had time to recreate them, but they weren't biggies anyway 00:05:38 <quaid> for the last release, were there any miscommunications 00:05:42 <quaid> or disconnects? 00:05:45 <jjmcd> Yes 00:05:48 <jjmcd> quite a few 00:05:58 <jjmcd> I think most got addressed in the new schedule 00:05:59 <quaid> do we need to get an actual affirmative from people about the schedule? 00:06:09 <quaid> "Put your name on this wiki page" or mark a checkbox or something? 00:06:38 <jjmcd> That might be worthwhile, although I suspect ianweller, danielsmw, ke4qqq and othere may or may not be here 00:06:58 <jjmcd> But there is a good idea quaid 00:07:22 <jjmcd> #action jjmcd will put up a wiki page for each of the content owners to agree to the schedule 00:07:44 <jjmcd> Everyone OK with that? 00:07:57 <laubersm> I think the larger communication issues were with other groups though... like releng needing the rpm before we were scheduled to build it.. 00:08:20 <laubersm> I'm good with the sched (as much as I have looked) and good with a wiki to get the people really involved to sign off 00:08:21 <jjmcd> Well, yeah. That was a biggie, and you better believe this time i triple checked 00:08:56 <jjmcd> And we will have some surprises this time since we are handling the L10N interface differently 00:09:33 <jjmcd> OK, anything else on the schedule? 00:10:18 <jjmcd> Moving on 00:10:24 <jjmcd> #topic Desktop Help Summit 00:10:40 <jjmcd> #link http://live.gnome.org/DesktopHelpSummit2010 00:10:52 <jjmcd> OK, it looks as if sparks might not be able to go 00:11:02 <laubersm> too far out on the schedule for me to say if I can be there. But it is not out of the question. 00:11:04 <jjmcd> laubersm, any news on whether you will make it? 00:11:10 <jjmcd> OK 00:11:24 <jjmcd> Is anyone else thinking about it? 00:11:34 <laubersm> Still even a possibilty I can get RH schedule me to teach up there before or after (thus covering plane at the same time) 00:11:59 <jjmcd> That would be a perfect scenario 00:12:08 <laubersm> They won't have the schedule together for a while (working on the first 2 weeks of Feb today) 00:12:22 <jjmcd> Right now I think I am the only for sure going, and we really should have two or three of us 00:12:45 <jjmcd> I told Max in a perfect world, rudi would be there but he didn't bite 00:12:55 <laubersm> :) 00:13:08 <rudi> lolz thanks anyway :) 00:13:33 <jjmcd> Well, especially without sparks it would be really good, but it is kind of a hike 00:14:04 <jjmcd> Anything else on the summit? 00:14:27 <jjmcd> Oh, I started to mention, Max did indicate he can make some funding available 00:14:58 <jjmcd> And we really should have more representation than me if Susan can't make it 00:15:51 <jjmcd> OK, moving on 00:16:08 <jjmcd> #topic Release Notes 00:16:30 <jjmcd> This one is quick. I did post a new updated test RPM if anyone wants to test 00:16:44 <jjmcd> I don't have the link right here but I did send it to the list 00:17:06 * quaid has to move networks (head home), bbi7m 00:17:13 <jjmcd> Paul made a good catch on the first one, but other than that 00:17:16 <jjmcd> Thanks quaid 00:17:37 <jjmcd> Any questions, updates, comments, concerns about release notes? 00:18:27 <jjmcd> #topic Status on CMS (Zikula) 00:18:35 <jjmcd> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status 00:18:57 <jjmcd> I'm not so sure we have any of the usual suspects here 00:19:05 <jjmcd> Any reports on Zikula? 00:20:02 <jjmcd> I guess not 00:20:13 <jjmcd> so 00:20:23 <jjmcd> #topic Guide Status 00:20:42 <jjmcd> rudi, any comments/updates on the guides? 00:21:01 <rudi> jjmcd -- nothing this week 00:21:11 <jjmcd> OK, anyone else on guides? 00:21:47 <jjmcd> #topic New Guides 00:22:04 <jjmcd> Anyone starting new guides? 00:23:21 <jjmcd> #topic All other business 00:23:22 <radsy> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/selinux-faq/ i'm updating that 00:23:30 <jjmcd> OK, here I do have something 00:24:23 <jjmcd> It looks as if sparks may be scarce for a little while here, I don't have any data on how long at this point, so if you see a leadership vacuum please don't be shy about stepping up 00:25:32 <jjmcd> Of course, under normal circumstances there is no need to be timid, but for now try to get over your timidity please 00:25:57 <jjmcd> Ahh, rasdy, sorry I middes that 00:26:16 <jjmcd> How are you coming? Need anything? 00:26:35 <radsy> nope, going fine - waiting for the next sync on that page, and adding a lot from dwalsh@ 00:26:57 <jjmcd> good deal 00:27:12 <jjmcd> I still need to do some recruiting for the ARG 00:27:15 <radsy> was considerably out-dated 00:27:40 <jjmcd> hehe - that is something that needs not only documentation, but also marketing 00:28:52 <radsy> i also had a couple of EOI for adding to the wireless-guide, but no email responses or IRC arrivals :( 00:29:10 <jjmcd> ahh 00:29:30 <jjmcd> I think a lot of people imagine that they aren't 31337 enough or something 00:30:14 <radsy> nothing else from me at this point 00:30:27 <jjmcd> Is there anything else for the good of the order? 00:30:51 <jjmcd> If you're thinking about going to Chicago, think harder! 00:31:29 <jjmcd> last call 00:31:43 <jjmcd> 9 00:31:46 <jjmcd> 8 00:31:52 <jjmcd> 7 00:31:56 <jjmcd> 6 00:32:01 <jjmcd> 5 00:32:01 <laubersm> 12 00:32:03 <laubersm> 42 00:32:04 <laubersm> hut 00:32:10 <jjmcd> 432 00:32:19 <jjmcd> #endmeeting