If we use the default browser and use clean HTML who cares what browser they install as long as at least one is installed and the window manager has some browser configured to handle HTML files. For the most part these will be new users who'll accept a default install anyway which will put Firefox (side note, why is 1.5 still the default for Firefox?)  on the machine.

On 5/17/07, Paul W. Frields <stickster@gmail.com > wrote:
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 10:26 +0200, Bart Couvreur wrote:
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> Matthias Clasen schreef:
> > On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 17:36 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 17:18 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 21:17 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know if this is off topic, or even just wishful thinking, but
> >>>> has any sort of a welcome wizard been considered?
> >>>>
> >>>> GNU/Linux (and Fedora) is different to what a lot of new users will
> >>>> have been used to, and some sort of a welcome wizard which just points
> >>>> them in the right direction for common items, i.e. software installer
> >>>> etc might be useful.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no idea if other people think this would be worthwhile, or how
> >>>> you might go about creating it! Thoughts?
> >>> You're thinking of a local/fat application?  Something that is kicked
> >>> off by the completion of firstboot?
> >> In other words, a firstboot module.  These can be fairly rich in
> >> content.
> >>
> >
> > Firstboot is NOT a good solution for this.
> >
> > 1) it runs outside a regular session, so the user cannot actually see
> >   what you explain to him
> >
> > 2) only the first user to start the machine after installation gets to
> >    see it
> >
> > 3) you cannot easily revisit it at a later time
> >
> >
> > What you want is a firstlogin that runs after the first login of every
> > new user.
> >
> Yeah, firstboot wouldn't scale enough, to let new users come to an
> existing system and learn about it.
> So something like "About Fedora"  turned into an interactive, "this is
> how you do foo, bar"-type of program? More like a small tour of the
> system, which ends with a list of links to the other guides we've got
> lying around here.
> Could be doable with firefox as Karsten mentioned earlier.

Again, firefox is not a good place for this.  Some users will never see
it if they install epiphany or konqueror instead.  I understand the
problems with firstboot now, but this kind of function should be an
independent program of some sort.  Which means if anyone wants it, they
will have to code it.

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