So to help in moving this project along, I take it the best method is
to attend the next Docs Group meeting and receive an assignment from
the pagure site?
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Zach Oglesby <zach(a)oglesby.co> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016, at 03:27 PM, Dylan Combs wrote:
>> Ah, I guess I never saw a rundown of the choices that were made.
>> Could you point me to them?
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Pete Travis <me(a)petetravis.com>
>>> Ahem. Mail client operator fail, trying again.
>>> On Aug 12, 2016 10:12 AM, "Dylan Combs"
>>> > I don't mean to just beat a perhaps-dead horse, but I really
>>> > can't get past the opposition (which I don't understand) to a
>>> > wiki-like environment for our documentation which would
>>> > facilitate this very thing.
>>> > I know there are concerns about "gardening" such a wiki, but
>>> > seriously, if we can put in place a system similar to
>>> > ask.fedoraproject.org
where users are provided badges and karma
>>> > for their work, I think that's the best we can do to promote
>>> > user involvement in conjunction with an easy click-and-you're-in
>>> > system for people to simply edit the content they're reading at
>>> > that very moment, in real time.
>>> > I know I would contribute heavily to such an environment. I
>>> > contribute heavily to ask.fedoraproject.org
in no small part
>>> > because I can quantify my involvement, and this helps in a lot
>>> > of ways people might not expect; I have even used my
>>> > contributions to ask.fedoraproject.org
as validation of my
>>> > skills for my employer. I have used it in job applications and
>>> > resumes to demonstrate the quality of my writing and my ability
>>> > to solve a variety of problems.
>>> > If we could just simplify the documentation process by providing
>>> > an easily-edited repository with a service that quantifies user
>>> > involvement, that, in my estimation, is the best model for
>>> > maintaining active, accurate documentation for our user base.
>>> > It dramatically simplifies the involvement process (getting into
>>> > ask.fedoraproject.org
is so easy, new accounts pop up all the
>>> > time, and contributions even from low-level accounts have been
>>> > very valuable), it makes the whole thing accessible, and for long-
>>> > term contributors, it provides a means by which to quantify and
>>> > qualify their involvement in the Fedora community, and this is a
>>> > feature that can be used by anyone for whatever purpose they may
>>> > have.
>>> > Our current system is extremely opaque, and the documentation is
>>> > relatively static. We have to change that, in my opinion, and a
>>> > simple Wiki with a user base consisting of moderators and
>>> > contributors, managed by a karma and badge system, is the way to
>>> > go.
>>> > I only propose this, yet again, because I just don't see the
>>> > rationale in its opposition. It seems to have elicited a few
>>> > relatively enthusiastic notes of support from this distribution
>>> > group along with a few somewhat vague concerns which I think
>>> > have been addressed.
>>> > Can we just chase this one down and prove that it is either
>>> > unsuitable or valid as a solution for our issue? We gotta move
>>> > on this!
>>> > -Dylan
>>> We did already chase this idea down and determine that a wiki was
>>> not suitable for a variety of reasons, which I will not reiterate
>>> in this thread. The discussion has moved on to implementation of
>>> the choices we've made. No, you won't have the new easier
>>> contribution path until more of this implementation work is done.
>>> Revisiting the platform discussion only adds stop energy at this
>>> point, let's please focus on executing the chosen path.
>>> -- Pete
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No need to wait for the next meeting, check out the pagure issues. If
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