Hi,
On 08/26/2013 03:56 AM, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
<snip>
* The Fedora Install guide at the moment has close to 1000 files. I
can tell you, it is arguably the ugliest project on Transifex. :-)
https://fedora.transifex.com/projects/p/fedora-install-guide/resources/ The
Fedora Install Guide is not being translated in Transifex anymore;
it has been moved to Zanata and the Transifex files are not updated for
Fedora 19. The Zanata instance has "only" 759 files :). Yes, it's still
ugly, I'm working on that.
https://translate.zanata.org/zanata/project/view/fedora-installation-guide
I understand that it might seem unusual and even counter-productive to
split translation projects between two separate systems, with this guide
being the only one being translated elsewhere. See this e-mail in the
list archive from the guide's previous maintainer explaining the reasons
behind the decision:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2013-April/014951.html.
Your e-mail pointed out something that I feel should be addressed
though. There seems to be some confusion at this point about the
Transifex instance. Is there a way to somehow mark it as obsolete, make
it read-only or just hide or even delete it? It doesn't seem like a good
decision to keep the guide in Transifex and having unsuspecting
translators possibly waste their time working on an obsolete project.
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Christopher Antila
<crantila(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Hello:
>
> On 08/25/2013 04:04 AM, Jérôme Fenal wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The Defensive and coding guide sports an interesting and forgotten
>> feature in its file organization: directories.
>> Beyond directories, it also happens to show files having the same name
>> (such as Language.xml, found in Python/, Java/, CXX/, C/, etc. or
>> schema.xml).
>>
>> You tell me, that is what directories are for. Fair enough.
>>
>> The real issue here is that pushing .po resulting from those XML files
>> to Transifex which only handles uniquely named resources in a flat
>> hierarchy leads to a mess, where there is no predictibility in having
>> the Language resource always the same on Transifex, depending how those
>> are pushed.
>>
>> Could it be possible to rename all those files to unique names, ideally
>> with the subdir as a prefix (such as CXX-Language.xml or C-schema.xml)
>> so that we have unique resource names in Transifex?
>>
>> Furthermore, could we add a requirement to documentation authors in
>> order to ensure that all XML files in their document hierarchy show
>> unique names?
> This is an interesting problem that the guide's author probably didn't
> think of! I'm definitely in favour of renaming these files as a
> short-term solution. I suggest that the best long-term solution is to
> add a directory-like feature to Transifex. After all, if authors think a
> hierarchic information strategy is useful, then translators would
> probably also think it's useful.
>
> Another issue: according to the bug Jérôme opened, it looks like Florian
> Weimer is the guide owner, but I don't see it in the guides table.[0] So
> what's going on here?
>
> Either way, I'd be happy to help rename files, unless anybody objects.
>
>
> Christopher
>
> [0]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_guides_table
>
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