On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 14:45, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 17:12, Karsten Wade wrote:
{ tainted URL? }
> I don't know how CC and FDL licensed documents mix.
It'd be a shame to
> have to redo the implementation. Has anyone encountered this yet? It's
> covered by the Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 1.0
> (
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/1.0/).
Karsten,
This brings up an interesting point which might be outside the scope of
this list, but I'm hoping you, Tammy and Mark especially (given your FTE
at Red Hat) might have some experience. I see your link above, and want
to be clear that, to this point, I have not visited it.
It looks to me like the CC BY-NC-SA is incompatible with the GNU FDL in
that it (a) requires identical licensing (SA), and (b) prevents
commercial use (NC). It does, however, grant the licensor the right to
waive any of these provisions upon request. It does make me a little
leery about reading too much before I write my tutorial! My head started
spinning with "clean room implementation" and other nonsense, until I
decided to simply write mine and see how it comes out.
Oh, man, I know where you are coming from. I hope we don't have to
worry about being tainted by other open source projects using different
licenses.
I can see that we can't mix the two. I'd been hoping that the script
was covered by a different license, but it doesn't say anything else so
I'm assuming it's the CC BY-NC-SA.
In general, the law says that "fair use" isn't affected
by copyright of
any kind, including a CC license, as stated explicitly even on the CC
site. Just as a copyrighted work may quote from a copyrighted source
without permission, I may review Alex's work and draw an idea from it,
and expand on it. I may *not* reproduce a substantial portion of his
work verbatim without permission. I plan to write my tutorial and then,
once it's done, post about it here and in Bugzilla.
I'll leave it up to others to review my original work and tell me if
there are shortcomings at that time. If someone would then like to point
out deficiencies, I'd try and address them myself up until the point my
skills give out.
Fair enough. If I raise the point that such-and-such a script would be
a Good Thing, we'll see if Alex wants to re-license or dual-license the
script under the GPL, if it's worth it.
In the end, I don't think you are going to be tainted by reading his
tutorial or script, but I understand recreating the functionality he has
may be beyond your and my skills. If it is, perhaps someone else will
step-up and write a GPL'd script to use, if we can't use Alex's.
- Karsten
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a lemon is just a melon in disguise
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