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Fedora Docs Meeting Reminder 30DEC2013 1400UTC
by Pete Travis 30 Dec '13

30 Dec '13

The Fedora Documentation Project continues the long standing tradition of Monday meetings again this week. You can join this time honored practice yourself, by simply logging on to freenode at 1400UTC and joining #fedora-meeting. -- -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org

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Fedora Docs Meeting Reminder 23DEC2013
by Pete Travis 23 Dec '13

23 Dec '13

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Bug 1043292 and 1043295, burning iso image to disc
by Tiansworld 21 Dec '13

21 Dec '13

Hi guys, I think it's time to get Burning iso image to disc for F20 published. But there still some typos there, which reported in bug 1043292[1]. I had filed patches few days ago. If you don't mind or you are busy with other issues, then I would like to push the patches directly to the repo(I think it just need one command 'git push', am I right?). So we can publish the guide early as requested in bug 1043295[2]. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1043292 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1043295 -- Regards, Tiansworld Fedora Project Contributor

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Self-Introduction: Cristian Ciupitu
by Cristian Ciupitu 20 Dec '13

20 Dec '13

Hi, I've been using Fedora since version 1 and before that Red Hat Linux. I don't have any experience with writing, but I'm always willing to contribute when I can. That's why I reported that the docs website is broken for ro-RO [1] and fixed a formatting error in the install guide [2]. I invite you to read a couple of my answers from Stack Exchange [3] to get a glimpse of the way I write and explain things: - http://stackoverflow.com/a/82278/12892 - http://serverfault.com/a/547144/4276 - http://superuser.com/a/665895/2357 - http://superuser.com/a/662549/2357 - http://serverfault.com/a/39300/4276 I also happen to be a Fedora packager. I have a CS/EE degree and I've worked as a system administrator and software developer, so technical stuff shouldn't be a major issue for me. Though keep in mind that I've just started using DocBook. I help people on #fedora and #coding-n00bs from time to time, so I'm used to the point of view of newbies. I'm joining this group because I want to fix tiny issues with less overhead and without bugging the leaders too much. For example, I noticed a typo in the release notes - Flikr instead of Flickr. I mentioned this on the channel, but since people were too busy to fix it, I cloned the git repository and fixed it myself. Right now I'm bugging randomuser about how to apply my patches :-) pub 4096R/EB05A811 2013-10-14 [expires: 2016-10-13] Key fingerprint = BDFF 9244 BB7B 9C2A 83F4 F0D1 CA00 7014 EB05 A811 uid Cristian Ciupitu (ciupicri) <cristian.ciupitu(a)yahoo.com> sub 4096R/CBB09BFB 2013-10-14 [expires: 2016-10-13] Kind regards, Cristian Ciupitu https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ciupicri [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998327 [2]: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/install-guide.git/commit/?id=4d2327b… [3]: http://stackexchange.com/users/7423/cristian-ciupitu

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web.git redirect for ro-RO
by Pete Travis 19 Dec '13

19 Dec '13

Hello, I'd like to bring everyone's attention to a bug[1] that I've discovered a workaround for. Here's what happens: We install ro-RO translations to web.git. They go into web.git/public_html/ro_RO/ When any book is installed, web.git/public_html/index.html is rewritten. This page contains a snatch of JavaScript to redirect a user to their localized content. In the case of ro-RO, this JavaScript actually redirects to web.git/public_html/ro/index.html - which breaks the site for ro-RO readers. The fix[2] is simple. Edit web.git/public_html/index.html and changs "ro" to "ro-RO" . This needs to be done after *every* run of installs, so please check it before you push. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998327 [2] https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/web.git/commit/?id=2f2791b0ec7d42bef… -- -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org

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Upgrading section of Installation Guide
by Adam Williamson 18 Dec '13

18 Dec '13

(pjones, there's a paragraph about bootloader stuff in the middle of this mail which could use your input - skip straight to that :>) Hi, folks. Just looking over the Upgrading section of the F20 install guide as part of my hurried project to try and co-ordinate our fedup messaging... I believe these parts: "Some upgraded packages may require the installation of other packages for proper operation. If you choose to customize your packages to upgrade, you may be required to resolve dependency problems. Otherwise, the upgrade procedure takes care of these dependencies, but it may need to install additional packages which are not on your system. Depending on how you have partitioned your system, the upgrade program may prompt you to add an additional swap file. If the upgrade program does not detect a swap file that equals twice your RAM, it asks you if you would like to add a new swap file. If your system does not have a lot of RAM (less than 256 MB), it is recommended that you add this swap file." from https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/ch-u… are old holdovers from preupgrade and no longer applicable or relevant; I think they should simply be removed. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/ch18… : The --debuglog stuff seems kind of extraneous, since you never explain to people what it's for or what to do with the log. I'd either add a note about what this does and why they might want to look at the log etc, or just drop that parameter from the instructions. The stuff about updating the bootloader on UEFI is specific to the Fedora XX->Fedora 18 transition where grub2-efi was introduced. F17 and earlier are now EOL and we do not really support upgrades from EOL releases. I would suggest we simplify this section and basically write it considering only upgrades from 18 or 19, at least in the main body. I don't _believe_ we have made any changes to the efibootmgr stuff between F18 and F20, or that it is necessary to 'refresh' the grub2 configuration - I think UEFI upgrades at least between F18 and F20 should not require or even recommend any form of manual intervention with grub; it should all be in order after a fedup. pjones, can you correct me if I forgot anything? (I need to check how this works out in the real world, for sanity - had a couple of reports this morning of UEFI fedup not working properly at all, but the _theory_ is what should be reflected in the installation guide text, I guess). So, I'd recommend replacing "This is not mandatory, but is recommended for BIOS systems and strongly recommended for EFI systems." with "This is not necessary for UEFI systems. It is not mandatory, but is recommended, for BIOS systems." and then dropping everything from "To update GRUB on EFI systems..." to "After the next reboot, your system will be using grub2-efi." The 'fedup can only upgrade from Fedora 17 and above' note is also now fairly EOL-y. The "If the contents of your /etc/fedora-release" note is I believe a holdover from anaconda-based upgrades and can be removed. We could add a little 'EOL upgrades' section at the bottom, perhaps, which explains that EOL upgrades are not supported but you can try if you're adventurous enough, and maybe suggest reading the installation guides for the relevant Fedora releases to find specific instructions like bootloader migration? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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As I read the release notes,
by Leslie S Satenstein 17 Dec '13

17 Dec '13

May I comment on the following.... 1.3.3.2. CPU Accelerated Graphics Systems with older or no graphics acceleration devices can have accelerated desktop environments using LLVMpipe technology, which uses the CPU to render graphics. LLVMpipe requires a processor with SSE2 extensions. The extensions supported by your processor are listed in the flags: section of /proc/cpuinfo Could you add that this information is only available if the user already has installed, a previous version of Linux Can he do something about this SSE2 test after installation? Regards Leslie Mr. Leslie Satenstein An experienced Information Technology specialist. Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day, and tomorrow will be even better.lsatenstein(a)yahoo.com SENT FROM MY OPEN SOURCE LINUX SYSTEM.

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remove Ryu in relnote
by Alick Zhao 16 Dec '13

16 Dec '13

Hi all, According to [1], Ryu has not been added into F20. However, it is mentioned in the release notes. Please consider to remove it from the release notes. Credit goes to Christopher Meng. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998540 -- Alick Fedora 18 (Spherical Cow) user https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alick

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Fedora Docs Meeting Reminder 16DEC2013 1400UTC
by Pete Travis 16 Dec '13

16 Dec '13

The regular meeting of the Fedora Documentation Project will, as usual, take place on Monday in #fedora-meeting on freenode. (Intellectual) Refreshments to be served in #fedora-docs before and after. -- -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org

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man-pages de license change
by Robert M. Albrecht 15 Dec '13

15 Dec '13

Hi, the upstream project for the german man-pages translation died quite some time ago and was now rebootet. The new upstream made a license change to GPLv3+. Anything to worry about for Fedora ? cu romal

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