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Wiki Markup Comparison
by A. Mani 19 Mar '09

19 Mar '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 See http://www.wikicreole.org/wiki/Reasoning for a good comparison of all types of wiki markup They have good arguments for their choice of 'least confusing' markup. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEUEARECAAYFAknCY5AACgkQunMISzvdfU6OYwCYki6ZD7m3sJf2yLVowPIfWtov eQCdGseki+exJULUTkeQLkh8bbPzDC0= =ru9U -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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PPC in the Install Guide
by David Nalley 19 Mar '09

19 Mar '09

So Rudi has been doing a ton of work on the Install Guide and we were talking tonight about the status of PPC. Currently we have a note in the IG where PPC installation differs. This is a bit cumbersome and for a few other reasons wanted to seek the 'Wisdom of the List' in how this should be handled. Our options are: 1. Continue with the exceptions process 2. Adopt the RHEL solution - which is to have a separate section in the same document that transcludes a lot of the identical content.) 3. Drop PPC from the Install Guide 3a: Drop PPC from the Install Guide and bring it back in F12 if there is an uprising calling for our heads. 3b. Drop PPC from the Install Guide and Create a PPC IG 3c. Drop PPC from the IG and let a PPC-SIG pick it up So discussing it amongst ourselves we both seem to like the 3a solution (Drop content and revert if there is an uprising). Our justification is: 1. PPC on pre-intel Macs is really aging hardware, so we are likely talking about when to drop rather than if. 2. PPC hardware is hard to come by. Currently no one working on the IG has PPC hardware in their possession, though Rudi says he can lay his hands on a machine if need be. 3. Removing the exception notes makes the document a cleaner read 4. It's less work. Barring any justifications to the contrary or directives from one of our fearless leaders by CoB on Friday Mar 20th this will be the we will be the approach for the F11 IG. Comments and flames welcome

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[Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2009: We're in!]
by Paul W. Frields 19 Mar '09

19 Mar '09

In case Docs team members hadn't seen it, here's a call for mentors and reviewers from Fedora for Google Summer of Code. Since many of you Docs team members are good at working with others and writing clearly, students could benefit from your help! Please consider helping a student get some real-life experience with FOSS through the Fedora Project. Paul ----- Forwarded message from "Patrick W. Barnes" <nman64(a)n-man.com> ----- From: "Patrick W. Barnes" <nman64(a)n-man.com> To: Development discussions related to Fedora <fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:06:07 -0500 Subject: Google Summer of Code 2009: We're in! X-BeenThere: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com We have been accepted to participate in this year's Google Summer of Code. We are now seeking additional volunteers to serve as mentors or proposal reviewers. This is light duty, and your service would be a great benefit to our community and to the students you may help. If you are willing to participate with us, please create a profile at: http://socghop.appspot.com/ Then, apply to become a mentor with us: http://socghop.appspot.com/mentor/request/google/gsoc2009/redhat More resources can be found here: http://groups.google.com/group/redhat-summer Thanks in advance! -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64(a)n-man.com http://n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ All messages cryptographically signed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP -- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Fedora Docs Meeting Reminder
by Eric Christensen 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

REMINDER: There will be a Fedora Docs Meeting today at 2359 UTC. The agenda can be found at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_Steering_Committee_meetings

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Docs team IRC log 20090312
by Karsten Wade 16 Mar '09

16 Mar '09

Wiki formatted: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meetings:Docs_IRC_log_20090312 Raw log attached. - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41

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Re: Uninstall Fedora - steps
by A. Mani 15 Mar '09

15 Mar '09

mike(a)vegasitpros.com wrote: > Why would anyone with a rational frame of mind want to uninstall fedora? So they could spend thousands of hard earned dollars to get the equivalent functions with windows? To use FreeBSD testing as primary OS... what else? :) Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc

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Re: Uninstall Fedora - steps
by Mike Dittmeier 14 Mar '09

14 Mar '09

Why would anyone with a rational frame of mind want to uninstall fedora? So they could spend thousands of hard earned dollars to get the equivalent functions with windows? It must be the full moon... ------Original Message------ From: Rahul Sundaram Sender: fedora-docs-list-bounces(a)redhat.com To: For participants of the Documentation Project ReplyTo: For participants of the Documentation Project Subject: Uninstall Fedora - steps Sent: Mar 14, 2009 2:29 PM Hi I don't think is actually a big dirty secret but perhaps we can quick through together some steps for a end user who wants to do so? I do see some forums posts rarely from users asking for this. Who wants to step up? http://blogs.computerworld.com/linuxs_dirty_little_secret_uninstall Rahul -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Re: Uninstall Fedora - steps
by Mike Dittmeier 14 Mar '09

14 Mar '09

Fdisk /dev/sda When prompted enter "d" then "o" then "w" to write changes to disk. The os is now removed Ditt ------Original Message------ From: Rahul Sundaram Sender: fedora-docs-list-bounces(a)redhat.com To: For participants of the Documentation Project ReplyTo: For participants of the Documentation Project Subject: Uninstall Fedora - steps Sent: Mar 14, 2009 2:29 PM Hi I don't think is actually a big dirty secret but perhaps we can quick through together some steps for a end user who wants to do so? I do see some forums posts rarely from users asking for this. Who wants to step up? http://blogs.computerworld.com/linuxs_dirty_little_secret_uninstall Rahul -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Publican Issues for RNs
by John J. McDonough 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Let me preface this by mentioning that I haven't got a clue about packaging, so assuming I am a complete idiot wouldn't be inappropriate. Eric discovered back in January that there are a couple of show stoppers to using Publican for Docs. He thought he was going to get the issues fixed in a short time, but that hasn't happened, and it doesn't look like it will happen. Eric developed a workaround by hacking Publican. Unfortunately, using this approach would require everyone participating in Docs to have a hacked Publican, and the hack breaks Publican for other uses. A switch would be nice, and acceptable to the Publican developers, but apparently it would take a lot of effort and there is only one maintainer. Publican does almost everything we need to do between the wiki and the RPM, so we would really like to use it rather than the mish-mash of tools we currently have. There are two problems: 1) Publican names the package incorrectly 2) The .desktop file is handled differently than the reviewers would like Now it seems to me, worst case we could run Publican and then package the HTMLs manually. But since Publican already does most of the heavy lifting, why not simply patch Publican's work after the fact. To this end, I made an attempt to do the following: 1) Unpack the SRPM produced by Publican, The SRPM has 2 files, a tarball and a specfile 2) Rename the tarball, which involves untarring and retarring it 3) Edit the specfile 4) rpmbuild I wrote down the details of what I did at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jjmcd/Drafts/Converting_Publican_RPM_fo… When I do this, the resulting RPM passes rpmlint, installs correctly, and seems to meet the guidelines. What am I missing? Well, appears to install correctly. A menu entry appears and when I click on it I see release notes. Maybe there are less obvious things going on. As far as the .desktop file, I don't fully understand the issue here. The code produced by Publican appears to be almost identical to that in the packaging guidelines on the wiki and very similar to what it is in the current release notes. David Nally tells me of an entirely different way to deal with the .desktop file but I don't know enough to understand why it is better. So what I'm asking is: 1) Is this totally wrong-headed and we should be looking up another avenue 2) How can this approach be made better 3) Is there some other way Thanks --McD

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Introduction
by Tiago Vieira 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Hi there I've been following some fedora's lists and getting into some projects that I believe I can help. Fedora docs is one of the projects that I believe I can do it, and I would be glad to be part of that. My name is Tiago, I'm Brazilian but living in UK for few years. I've done my Bsc. in CS and I'm just to begin my Msc. in Soft. Engineering in Oxford. I'm also taking the RHCE test in April. I like to read code and man pages. :) I would be grateful to be accepted within this group. I also congratulation all of you for the wonderful job you have been doing for the Fedora planet. So, this is my self-introduction. Hope I can help with something in my spare times. Freedom | Friends | Features | First Cheers! -- Tiago (r0xc0rp) Vieira tiagovieira(a)fedoraproject.org tel:+44-7595223968 Fedora Talk: 5125164 / E9CE CC25 0009 A08D F79E B660 08DA EAF5 47EA 1F16

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