Re: DocsProject common entities -- problem with translations?
by Igor Miletic
On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 15:22 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> So it sounds like we will have annoyances no matter which choice we
> make:
>
> 1. Using "xml2po -k" and keeping entities intact like &NAME; there are
> translators who will be inconvenienced. They can still substitute
> translations for the entity -- using the right form of "SomeName,"
> instead of the exact string "&NAME;" -- but there will be no benefit to
> them in the event the entity changes. They may not even notice that it
> *has* changed unless they are watching the
> docs-common/common/entities/po/entities.pot file, and making the mental
> connection.
>
> 2. Using "xml2po -e" and transforming the entities into strings in the
> POT file, so "&NAME;" becomes "SomeName," it will be painful to change
> single strings in a minor way, since *many* fuzzy entries potentially
> result from trivial changes.
>
> We can revert to behavior #2, and I can get this into the POTs for
> important modules now. I would like opinions within the next 24 hours.
Vote for "-e" here, if entities are left "as is".
However, if entities are only version numbers, files and possibly
trademarks ("Fedora" and "Red Hat Inc."), I could support "-k" as well
(as long it does not include name of projects).
Regards,
Igor
17 years, 1 month
Re: homepage/devel/po el.po, 1.4, 1.5 es.po, 1.4, 1.5 homepage.pot, 1.6, 1.7 it.po, 1.6, 1.7 pl.po, 1.9, 1.10 pt.po, 1.7, 1.8 pt_BR.po, 1.6, 1.7 ru.po, 1.3, 1.4 sr.po, 1.1, 1.2 sv.po, 1.4, 1.5 uk.po, 1.3, 1.4 zh_CN.po, 1.4, 1.5
by Igor Miletic
On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 16:38 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> Author: pfrields
>
> Update of /cvs/docs/homepage/devel/po
> In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv3652/po
>
> Modified Files:
> el.po es.po homepage.pot it.po pl.po pt.po pt_BR.po ru.po
> sr.po sv.po uk.po zh_CN.po
> Log Message:
> Update POT and PO adding franais to the locales
>
> #. Next para does not need to be translated.
> #: en_US/homepage.xml:20(para)
> +#, fuzzy
> msgid ""
> "<ulink url=\"index-pt_BR.html\">portugus brasileiro</ulink>, <ulink
> url="
> -"\"index-el.html\"></ulink>, <ulink url=\"index-it.html\">italiano</"
> -"ulink>, <ulink url=\"index-pl.html\">Polski</ulink>, <ulink url=
> \"index-pt."
> -"html\">portugus</ulink>, <ulink url=\"index-ru.html\">Pycc</ulink>,
> "
> -"<ulink url=\"index-zh_CN.html\"></ulink>, <ulink url=
> \"index-es.html"
> -"\">Espaol</ulink>, <ulink url=\"index-sv.html\">svenska</ulink>, and
> <ulink "
> -"url=\"index-en_US.html\">US English</ulink>."
> +"\"index-el.html\"></ulink>, <ulink url=\"index-fr.html\">franais</"
> +"ulink>, <ulink url=\"index-it.html\">italiano</ulink>, <ulink url=
> \"index-pl."
> +"html\">polski</ulink>, <ulink url=\"index-pt.html
> \">portugus</ulink>, "
> +"<ulink url=\"index-ru.html\">Pycc</ulink>, <ulink url=
> \"index-zh_CN.html"
> +"\"></ulink>, <ulink url=\"index-es.html\">Espaol</ulink>, <ulink "
> +"url=\"index-sv.html\">svenska</ulink>, and <ulink url=
> \"index-en_US.html"
> +"\">US English</ulink>."
> msgstr ""
> "<ulink url=\"index-pt_BR.html\">portugus brasileiro</ulink>, <ulink
> url="
> "\"index-el.html\"></ulink>, <ulink url=\"index-it.html\">italiano</"
> @@ -98,37 +104,47 @@
> "\">Espaol</ulink>, <ulink url=\"index-sv.html\">svenska</ulink>,
> <ulink "
> "url=\"index-en_US.html\">US English</ulink>."
>
Can you add Serbian too: <ulink url=\"index-sr.html\">српски</ulink> ?
Regards,
Igor
17 years, 1 month
Re: homepage/devel/en_US homepage.xml,1.8,1.9
by "Piotr \"Raven\" Drąg"
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Paul W. Frields (pfrields) napisał(a):
> <!-- Next para does not need to be translated. -->
> <para><ulink url="index-pt_BR.html">português brasileiro</ulink>,
> <ulink url="index-el.html">Ελληνικά</ulink>, <ulink
> - url="index-fr.html">French</ulink>, <ulink
> + url="index-fr.html">français</ulink>, <ulink
> url="index-it.html">italiano</ulink>, <ulink
> url="index-pl.html">polski</ulink>, <ulink
> url="index-pt.html">português</ulink>, <ulink
> @@ -46,6 +46,7 @@
> <para><ulink url="RELEASE-NOTES-pt_BR.html">português
> brasileiro</ulink>, <ulink
> url="RELEASE-NOTES-el.html">Ελληνικά</ulink>, <ulink
> + url="RELEASE-NOTES-fr.html">français</ulink>, <ulink
> url="RELEASE-NOTES-it.html">italiano</ulink>, <ulink
> url="RELEASE-NOTES-pl.html">Polski</ulink>, <ulink
^^^^^^
It looks like it's not only in one place... :(
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17 years, 1 month
Wiki work needed
by Paul W. Frields
Can anyone accept the following mission:
11:12:01 < f13> stickster_work: I'm going to be lame and point out a
wiki page that needs editing, but without doing it myself or providing
content for you :/
11:12:54 < f13> stickster_work: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HelpWanted
this page doesn't seem to reflect the core/extras merger stuff, nor the
wiki changes mether did around organizing Fedora Packagers and such at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers
Would someone like to take the task of fixing the HelpWanted page to
agree with Rahul's recent edits at PackageMaintainers? The objective is
to properly portray the package collection as being unified rather than
split into Core and Extras.
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17 years, 1 month
Re: homepage/devel/en_US homepage.xml,1.6,1.7
by "Piotr \"Raven\" Drąg"
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Karsten Wade (kwade) napisał(a):
> <para>This page is available in the following languages:</para>
> <!-- Next para does not need to be translated. -->
> <para><ulink url="index-pt_BR.html">português brasileiro</ulink>,
> - <ulink url="index-el.html">Ελληνικά</ulink>, <ulink
> + <ulink url="index-el.html">Ελληνικά</ulink>, <ulink
> + url="index-fr.html">French</ulink>, <ulink
> url="index-it.html">italiano</ulink>, <ulink
> url="index-pl.html">Polski</ulink>, <ulink
>
It should be "polski", not "Polski" (like "italiano" above).
- --
Piotr Drąg
http://raven.pmail.pl/
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17 years, 1 month
Release Notes for F7test4 - POT available
by Paul W. Frields
The POT for Release Notes for F7test4 is now available for translators
in the Fedora Docs CVS. For instructions, please refer to the
Translation Quick Start Guide¹, Chapter 4, "Translating Documentation."
Please make sure you apply for cvsdocs access to be able to commit your
translations!
** The deadline for PO files is 2359 UTC, April 14th 2007.² **
The module is available here:
$ cvs -d :ext:<username>@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs co
release-notes-devel
Please test your translations for validity by running "make
validate-xml-<LANG>" when finished. If you have specific problems with
the output, you can get help from the Fedora Documentation Project
either on fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com or on IRC Freenode in channel
#fedora-docs.
The following PO files have been created so far³:
ca cs da de el es fi fr gu hr it ja ml ms nb nl pa pl pt_BR pt ru
sr@Latn sr sv ta uk zh_CN zh_TW
If you translate another language, you can follow the instructions in
the document above to add a new language to the list.
Thank you for your time and efforts!
= = = = =
¹ http://docs.fedoraproject.org/translation-quick-start-guide/
² http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule
³ The following languages need to have common entity PO files created
before any documents can be built in those languages:
ca cs fi gu hr ml ms nb sr@Latn ta zh_TW
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17 years, 1 month
Heading styles
by Jonathan Roberts
Hi,
sorry I'm sending *so* many mails to the list!
Possible addition to the style guidelines would be that
headings/titles should either be *all* capitalized, i.e. Cool Things
To Do With Fedora, or first capital and then all lower case, i.e. Cool
things to do with Fedora. Some documents currently have headings which
look like "Cool Things To Do with Fedora" - the random use of
capitals/lowercase is ugly, imho!
Yours,
Jon
17 years, 1 month
Question about the translation process of fedora 7 relnotes
by Yuan Yijun
Hi,
I have some question about translation process. Vmlinuz may going to
translate it.
* What is the CVS url for fedora 7 relnotes?
* What group should translator have in the fedora account system?
* How to begin translation, I cannot find RELEASE-NOTES on fedora i18n
status page, so how can I "TAKE" it? I rememberred for fc6 relnotes it
was here: http://i18n.redhat.com/cgi-bin/i18n-status?page=status&branch=HEAD&locale...
* How to notify the others that I'm translating it?
* When will POT file get ready, will there be any email notifications?
* Do I need to modify "Makefile" and run "make xxxxx" to generate
zh_CN.po as before?
Thanks!
--
bbbush ^_^
17 years, 1 month
readme-burning-isos - suggested changes
by Development discussions related to Fedora
Hi,
Had a look over the above document on the F7t3 dvd iso, and felt it
could use some additions {other than FC6 -> F7} which seems to be
handled by some macros.
http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/
readme-burning-isos/devel/en_US/README-BURNING-ISOS.xml?root=docs&rev=1.3&view=markup
I'm not part of the cvsl10n group so if the cvs tree is still open
before translation begins perhaps someone can check and commit ;) {I
couldn't find the doc anywhere on the wiki, so assuming it's a cvs thing}.
DaveT.
17 years, 1 month
want to mentor a GSoC project?
by Karsten Wade
We have several projects that have proposals in the Google Summer of
Code. Right now, it looks as if we'll get three projects working this
summer. Maybe four.
Obviously that's too many for just one person to mentor. So this is
your lucky chance!
Aside from helping make a project happen, mentors get a GSoC t-shirt,
and a chance at other goodies. Last year, I got to attend the Mentors
Summit with mentors from all over the world, and we met at the famous
Google campus in Mountain View.
If you are interested, contact myself and Patrick Barnes. You'll also
need to apply to be a mentor for The Fedora Project via:
http://code.google.com/soc/mentor_home.html
You need to do this right away, so you can help with the proposal
selection process. During this process, mentors work with students on
their active proposals, to work out which ones are accepted.
cheers - Karsten
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