On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Mark Terranova <doctorfoss(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Prof Mani, I support the Outreach efforts, but for a while have been
concerned with unfunded mandates. Requiring regions to fund these events
seems counter to helpful. As in supporting Inclusion will take away from
local Fedoran's already limited budget.
Outside of Fedora Events, and newly this year, funding for Outreachy
Internships, there is no 'central funding.' It is my understanding
(I'm relatively new here) that as a project we believe that the
regions should have as much autonomy over their own budgets, and
decide how best to spend their funding in their local areas. This
includes Diversity and Inclusion efforts, which are facilitated and
guided by the Fedora Council, the Fedora Project and Community Lead,
and the newly selected Fedora Diversity Advisor.
I'm preparing to be really uppity if need be, I'm hoping that
will create less liabilities for others. This sorta thing is why I was
recruited from Fedora. I'm reaching out to my contacts within the group
behind the scenes to see what can be done. I already have a meeting
scheduled next week, and have folks "able to do a meeting at end of month."
A month is too long to wait.
"Being uppity" doesn't sound like the way that Friends (one of
Fedora's foundations) treat eachother. Please just default to open,
and be honest and positive.
I'll update as things develop.
As to specifics of your event, I was mistaken in thinking these events would
be Project wide. Im avoiding details of your event (for now :D.) I'm trying
to walk the line here, so I can be able to react as needed. I've already
reached out to RH's CEO on Twitter, and have made clear if needed he'll join
the dialog if need be.
Though Red Hat does support Fedora as a community project, and we are
very very thankful, Fedora has it's own governing body and community
process for making decisions together. You are certainly free to reach
out to whomever you'd like to on twitter, but know that when you do so
outside of (and in some ways contrary to) the established channels of
communication and process of addressing budget issues (which are
agreed upon and openly discussed and decided) you are no longer
representing the "whole" of the Fedora community, but your own
If we are going to make an effective organizational request, we need
to do so as an organization, with a unified and agreed upon approach,
with data and evidence to back up our claims. Other approaches will
appear disorganized, fragmented, and unsupported, and can actually
*hurt* our ability to make the case for increased funding later.
Numerous times I have advised on the way to most productively
contribute to the budgetary process--helping regions report action and
impact of their spending, and making the case for increasing future
spend by making projections based data and proposed activities. I will
continue to advise you to constructively and positively participate in
the budget process in this manner if you actually want to help.
At this point we are having to Fight Fedora for having an event. This time
would be better spent planning, IMHO.
I do not see where we are "fighting" about the event? There is nothing
preventing anyone from creating a ticket or wiki page to start
planning an event or series of events. In fact, that is a requirement
for requesting funding for events in most regions, and a logistical
necessity for folks to understand where they can help contribute.
If you have concerns with the larger budget process as a whole, please
address your concerns to the council-discuss list. When I read this
thread, I read it as a logostical question about funding/sponsoring a
regional event, and have responded as such.
Hope this helps,
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 12:33 AM, A. Mani <a.mani.cms(a)gmail.com>
> Since the very idea was conceived in March'2016, I am having issues
> with budgeting (and other organizers will also have similar issues) as
> the rule book for ambassadors says that I should have applied in the
> previous year.
> What can be done on the matter?
> Thanks and Best
> A. Mani
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