On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Zacharias Mitzelos <mitzie@mitzelos.com> wrote:
> We have been doing this for years and there were never any problems.

How do you know that? Trust me when I say that people would rather not speak up, not contribute, and not even ask for not sharing a room if they have a good personal problem.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Amita Sharma <amsharma@redhat.com> wrote:
> I also know that the money is a limited resource we have and we have to use it wisely.

Yes, we have to use it wisely, but this problem is not about money, I know very well what kind of budgets flow through Fedora and RedHat. Comparably the 70$ difference on a solo room instead of a shared one is irrelevant. It's irrelevant whether it's 500$ for the contributor which we happily approve, or 570$ with a single room.

> One solution to this which I can think of as of now is - Just calculate the per person budget for accommodation on sharing basis

Yes, a solution that is not communicated and the whole communication is "you have to share a room." Main problem here - discouraging contribution with mere words.


Radka
  

Radka Janeková
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On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Amita Sharma <amsharma@redhat.com> wrote:
When I acknowledge the issue here, at the same time I also know that the money is a limited resource we have and we have to use it wisely.
One solution to this which I can think of as of now is - Just calculate the per person budget for accommodation on sharing basis and one should be able to find a single room within the same budget (may be not at the same place though).
I also believe that everything has its own pros and cons. When you stay together with other people and in company, it is always more secure/safe and more time to socialize and you are free to choose with whom you want to stay (considering other person is also agreed). I also believe that, conferences are time bounded (maximum of 2-4 days), where we can adjust things and help Fedora to use money wisely in stuff where it is required the most.

HTH :)

Regards,
Amita

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Radka Janekova <radka.janek@redhat.com> wrote:
We've been discussing this as one of the problems of inclusion with some of the Diversity (+cc) members, basically the problem is that we can not assume ones orientation and how comfortable they are running around almost naked around what kind of strangers. We can not even ask for an explanation because that already invites a situation where someone will rather run away than having to explain something so deeply personal. Whatever the reasons are, if one is not okay with room sharing, they should still be able to contribute.

Anyone got anything to add to the problem? Should we discuss this problem in a meeting or a ticket?


Radka
  

Radka Janeková
.NET & OpenShift Engineer, Red Hat
IRC: radka | Freenode: Rhea


On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Zacharias Mitzelos <mitzie@mitzelos.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017, at 11:41, Radka Janekova wrote:
Hi,

yes I do - I am not entirely comfortable with room sharing though.

Hi,

From the looks of it there are 4 women asking for accommodation (including you), so there won't be a free room (if you were 5 for example so you could be on your own). That's actually how it works in conferences like these, sorry but I can't do something about it. You are free to choose your roommate, but we simply can't afford every subsidized participant to book his own room.





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