On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Alexander Kurtakov wrote:
> * AutoQA - QA guys are struggling with their effort to get their stuff
> running from Fedora packages (shame on us if we can't make our own stuff
> run from our packages)
> * Name it :)
At my work, first thing that happens with Java is that Openjdk gets
thrown out of the window and is replaced with Oracle's JRE.
Well, this is not
applicable for Fedora at all :).
That of course is not going to make openjdk less buggy or
get more testers, so what I'd like to see is a some kind of
wiki page of its implications.
- what breaks if openjdk is removed
Every java package in Fedora is tested with
only OpenJDK and/or GCJ there is
no way we can test/guarantee that Fedora package works with any JVM that is
not build into Fedora properly.
- what works & what doesn't with openjdk
depends on your workflow. OpenJDK is working perfectly for me in my
daily work as a software tools developer :).
- what integration issues there are with Fedora/EPEL and Oracle JRE
Well we have a huge issue here. There is no legal way to import Oracle JRE
into Fedora so there is no way we can make use of it in Fedora.
- what is gained if openjdk can be used and kept in place as a
We gain the ability to build and run Java Software which is huge gain.
This page should be something to convince to those who remove
Fedora should not and will not promote usage of Oracle JRE. Go read
license-159167.txt . It's proprietary and it's against basic Fedora
principles. Read details about the Oracle/Sun's JRE licencing and problems
with it in Mark's blog post
Please never, ever add anything promoting proprietary software on Fedora wiki.
Keeping it compact and focusing on that audience.
Removing openjdk is a chicken and egg problem, perhaps that wiki
page could avoid some of those cases with small effort from Fedora's
Removing OpenJDK is out of scope for Fedora unless you can give us a better