Le jeudi 28 février 2008 à 04:14 -0600, Arthur Pemberton a écrit :
2008/2/28 Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net>:
> Le mercredi 27 février 2008 à 13:22 -0800, Andrew Farris a écrit :
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> > The builtin firefox addon update system works far faster for most desktop
users
> > than getting a new rpm packaged, built, and shipped...
>
> I works far faster for update freaks that love hunting the internet for
> software bits and always update to the latest version.
You know Firefox checks for updates automatically, right?
Ever tried to use this behind a corporate firewall? The firefox system
is a joke, can't even use its own proxy settings, it only sort-of works
for home users.
> It's pretty
> useless for the large class of users who want their apps to just work
Requiring admin to install some addons via RPMs is your idea of just work?
That's how it works both in corporate context and in computer-illiterate
nephew-support contexts.
> and are not willing to invest large parts of their time in
extension
> hunting.
As opposed to searching through the repos with yum for the extension
you want? How much easier is that than going to addons.mozilla.org?
Our package descriptions are localized. addons.mozilla.org is
English-only. Even ignoring the various ways the Firefox extension
system is broken, this alone makes it unsuitable for a large class of
users.
> And some extensions have been known to have security holes, so
> relying on users to update extensions when all do not is going to bite
> us sooner or later.
So the users won't hit install when Firefox offers them the updates,
but they will run yum update to get updates?
Many users have learnt that "just-say-no" is the right answer to any
browser popups
> The Firefox addon update system is far from awesome when
you're the one
> who has to install and update Firefox extensions manually on a pool of
> systems because users don't bother (additionally that's one reason
And how many people are there like that?
Only needs one to justify a Fedora package.
You know you can just create
your own RPM for your pool of users, and get what you want done.
> Firefox fares so bad in the enterprise — geek-oriented installation
> system without any provision for centralised management).
What kind of enterprise is willing to run Firefox on Linux but not
willing to roll out their own supplemental apt/yum repository?
The kind of enterprise that decides it has better ways of spending money
than filling out the missing pieces in Fedora.
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Nicolas Mailhot