Am Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:25:58 +0000
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 13:58:47 -0800
From: Luya Tshimbalanga <luya(a)fedoraproject.org>
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
Subject: Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming
from gnome-software and desktop environments
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On 30/12/14 12:34 PM, Alec Leamas wrote:
> On 30/12/14 20:57, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
>> On 29/12/14 04:33 AM, Alec Leamas wrote:
>>> This certainly works, but is it really a reasonable trade-off in a
>>> developer context where things like compilers and interpreters are
>>> part of the very core? What role does Gnome Software play here? How
>>> fruitful is the idea to hide packages in this context?
>> Compiler and interpreters i.e.Glade having GUI and implements app-data
>> (supposedly mandatory starting on Fedora 22) will be displayed on Gnome
> Glade is neither a compiler nor an interpreter, it's an IDE.
>> Gnome Software is to abstract the package concept to only
>> focus on applications accessible to desktop.
> Agreed. And I can see some usecases where this makes a lot of sense.
> But the question then becomes if this is the proper thing to do for
> the Workstation target user which is a developer. As such, she will in
> many cases want to install things like gcc, different python stacks
> using collections, text processing tools and so on. None of which with
> a GUI. She will also sometimes be interested in multiple desktops for
> testing etc., causing the "MATE apps not visible" problem.
What about DevAssistant that comes with Fedora Workstation? Have you
MATE apps not visible means they needed app-data included on their
.desktop files hence the pleas from Richard Hughes.
This is all done since some
months in upstream and will land in fedora with mate-1.10 soon.
But i don't think that mate devs are very happy and motivated to do more because of
gsettings defaults of gnome-software.
[rave at fedora-21 ~]$ gsettings get org.gnome.software compatible-projects
['GNOME', 'KDE', 'XFCE']
In general mate desktop don't need such a software because outside from fedora most
other major distros don't use gnome as default desktop.
And for fedora mate use yumex and for f22 we will use yumex-dnf.