On 05/31/2016 11:31 AM, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote:
On 05/31/2016 01:59 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:
> On 05/31/2016 10:42 AM, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote:
>> On 05/31/2016 01:39 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2016-05-29 at 17:17 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>>>> They usually have a 60 hour a week job
>>> I hope this isn't accurate...?
>> I didn't write about it myself, but was left wondering anyways. Do RH
>> programmers usually work 60 hours per week? "On average", full time
>> means 40 to 44 hours around the world. I've even seen 30 hours being
>> called full time in some job postings.
> It depends primarily on what country you live in. In the US, for
> salaried (as opposed to hourly) programmers, the pay is based off of a
> 45 hour work week e.g. 8am - 5pm Monday through Friday, lunch included
> (i.e. you are paid to eat lunch). Of course, this is strictly for
> accounting purposes - hardly any salaried programmers work these hours,
> and most programmers would say "well, I'm more or less working all the
> time - I get great ideas for solving problems while I'm sleeping and
> dreaming, in the shower, driving to work, on the bus, etc.", and those
> hours aren't strictly accounted for.
From experience, in Brazil it would either be 40 (the same you wrote,
but lunch is not paid for) or 44 (+ 4 hours in Saturday mornings).
I've worked on hourly rates, and unless you get a "change the
background color to black and text to red" task you are also going to
do a substantial amount of work when you are not "working", and these
hours are also not paid for.
I think that Michael and I were wondering whether RH programmers were
getting 60 paid hours, not thinking about work at least 60 hours per week.
This would mean an average of 12 "office" hours (supposing
they do not
work on weekends) per day. Which seems pretty aggressive to most
professionals I've come across if they are going to sit through that
in an supervised office.
I see you write from an @redhat.com address. Are you saying that all
US-based RedHat developers get 45 hour work weeks or less?I'm talking
about what the papers say, not the actual amount of work.
AFAIK the accounting system accounts for salaried developers working 45
hours per week.