On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 3:24 PM Gerald B. Cox <gbcox(a)bzb.us> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 2:51 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
> > When FESCo decided to approve that change to the original plan, this
> > was noted as a potential risk. I personally think that staying aligned
> > with the rest of the RH distro ecosystem is worth some inconvenience.
> > It'll make it easier to share and collaborate on documentation and
> > other help.
Aren't we talking about YUM being a symlink to DNF? If that is the case, I don't
staying "aligned" is going to be easier - since it is indeed DNF and not YUM.
I was under the impression
this was a rebranding; and that ship has sailed years ago. Which also begs the question,
the rest of the RH distro ecosystem using DNF?
The cool thing about sailing ships on a globe is that it's a sphere
and you can keep going and still wind up back where you started :)
To answer the ecosystem question... if I were an EL shop that had been
using yum and writing scripts to interact with yum for years, and then
I had to rewrite all of my scripts and retrain my muscle memory to
call a new command that had similar semantics and compatibility, I'd
be pretty annoyed. Having dnf in CentOS 7 is a way to help users that
use both Fedora and EL avoid that problem, which is good.
> The irony is not lost on me that a big part of the reason DNF has
> adopted in other Linux distributions is because it's not called YUM
> and wasn't attached to the stigma of that name, and after having that
> happen, there's now people in RH/Fedora who want to rename DNF to YUM.
I'm not aware of that being a big part of the reason, but I am aware of the negative
connotation that YUM
has had in the past... and the rebranding effort helped mitigate that. I don't
understand why people appear
to have some sort of emotional connection to the name YUM. DNF has been around since
2013... 5 years later
and we're discussing changing the name?
Yep. Sometimes we don't consider all angles or get feedback that
negates decisions. That's what's awesome about open source. It
allows you to experiment, correct, and adapt, all in the public space.