Kelly Miller <lightsolphoenix <at> gmail.com> writes:
Well, I've been running KDE4 in various forms over the last few
months, and I
have some comments about the current state of the KDE4 entry in Rawhide
Thank you for your feedback!
(which is likely going to be the one in Fedora 9)...
1) Um, with the exception of Fedora, every version of KDE4 I've
seen now has
an option for Plasma Theme in Configure Desktop. Would it be too much work
to port it here?
As far as I know, this is a KDE 4.1 feature. Some distributions are backporting
significant parts of Plasma from KDE 4.1. Fedora's Plasma is mostly vanilla
4.0.3 with only two small 4.1 backports related to the simple (classic) menu.
The plan is to have KDE 4.1 in an update when it's ready (unless it fails
testing spectacularly, of course), until then our feeling is that the version
of Plasma which upstream is actually releasing as stable is going to serve most
of our users better.
2) Interestingly, Fedora's version of KDE4 seems to be the only
the size option of the panels seems to actually be respected; even in KDE's
own repository, this didn't seem to be the case until recently. That makes me
very happy, as I'm a stickler for small details like this, but that's a small
Our Plasma is from KDE 4.0.3 (as all of our KDE 4 packages), that's almost the
latest from the 4.0 branch. So the bugfixes and features which upstream is
backporting to 4.0.x are all in Fedora 9, only the ones which are 4.1-only
The other distributions will most likely eventually end up with this fix too
unless the issue you're seeing is a regression in 4.1.
3) XSettings-KDE. Is there going to be any work on getting this to
with KDE4? I do notice that KDE3 apps listen to it (at least, that's my
feeling), but GTK apps don't seem to do the same...
KDE doesn't use xsettings at all, the KDE 3 apps are looking directly at the
configuration settings (we're using shared configuration directories for KDE 3
and 4), not listening to xsettings-kde.
4) Is there a reason Nepomuk is left out? Just asking.
Nepomuk should be there! I've worked a lot on getting the dependencies
packaged. Is anything missing?
5) I'm going to have to suggest, after a couple of months, that
it might be
an idea to switch the window manager to something other than KWin
Sorry, this is not going to happen. Especially now that KWin supports
compositing and desktop effects, which means we don't have to ship Compiz by
default on the KDE Live spin anymore. (Compiz is available as an option though,
yum install compiz-kde and run "Compiz Switcher".)
KWin is horribly unstable as-is, and I believe it also leaks memory
periodically (I've had cases where KWin steals 80+% of the system resources
and no other program can get at them at all).
Interesting, this is the first time we receive such a complaint. Any bugs
filed? (The best place is probably upstream bugs.kde.org
.) Did you enable
effects/compositing in systemsettings? (If so, try disabling it, that feature
isn't fully tested yet.)
Personally, I stopped using it and adjusted KDE's windows to use
instead, just for now.
It's good that this works for you, but Metacity is not really an option as the
default WM in KDE, it doesn't really integrate.