[If you get this twice, my sincere apologies.]
Hi there, my name is Alexander Joseph Perez, and I'm a co-maintainer of the GNUstep.org website and have been using GNUstep.org for several years. I'm from Santa Rosa, California, in the USA, am a full time anthropology student at Santa Rosa Junior College and work part time as a lowly help desk technician for the City of Santa Rosa, California.
I'm writing this e-mail because I've recently noticed that the most recent release of Fedora Core (2) does not contain any GNUstep packages, and as I've just installed it after getting sick and tired of Debian, I'd like to change that. I am intimately famaliar with the build process, and have a significant amount of personal contact online with the GNUstep core development team on a daily basis. I'd be willing to do QA on my packages as long as the requirements were reasonable. In short, I'd like to expose GNUstep to a wider audience now that it is ready for such exposure. GNUstep has been a long-lived project, and "we're not dead yet" seems to have become our mantra. GNUstep is not dead. In fact it's alive and well, and with the inclusion of GNUstep packages into Fedora Core, one of the more popular distributions of Linux, we will gain the potential to expose many more people to GNUstep and its offerings.
As I said previously, I'm a current GNUstep.org website maintainer, and am working on unifying the disparate GNUstep-related documentation sources which are/have been strewn across the expanse of the Internet until recently (much of it still is). I love the simplicity and true Object-Oriented nature of the Objective-C programming language, which GNUstep is based on. My associate, Andrew Pinski, is the GCC libobjc (GCC Objective-C runtime) maintainer and works periodically for apple as his college career permits. I recently worked with him to make sure that some of the patches to the Objective-C runtime were integrated into libobjc head.
If anyone here has any questions, please feel free to contact me at aperezATstudentDOTsantarosaDOTedu as I'd be glad to answer or clarify any points I've made here. I am not subscribed to the fedora-devel mailing list and do not wish to be unless I am "accepted" and allowed to create and provide GNUstep packages to Fedora.
My GPG fingerprint is 2F36 2A89 14B4 B58F 176B 1B26 5E4D 5FCA 9190 2041 and this has been uploaded to pgp.mit.edu
Cheers, Alex Perez -- pub 1024D/91902041 2004-05-31 Alex Perez (MrBIOS) aperez@student.santarosa.edu Key fingerprint = 2F36 2A89 14B4 B58F 176B 1B26 5E4D 5FCA 9190 2041 sub 2048g/380DB427 2004-05-31
Hi, As nobody else seems to be answering (at least publically), possibly since today is a holiday in the U.S.A., let me toss in my $0.02. I'm not even much of a contributor (yet at least) but I've seen and to some extent participated in the discussions.
Alex Perez wrote:
I'm writing this e-mail because I've recently noticed that the most recent release of Fedora Core (2) does not contain any GNUstep packages, and as I've just installed it after getting sick and tired of Debian, I'd like to change that.
...
In fact it's alive and well, and with the inclusion of GNUstep packages into Fedora Core, one of the more popular distributions of Linux, we will gain the potential to expose many more people to GNUstep and its offerings.
I believe that it is quite unlikely that yet another desktop environment will be added to the core distribution for FC3, especially with the recent discussions about possibly trimming down the core distribution and putting more things in Extras. However, GNUstep sounds like a perfect fit for Fedora Extras, so please do submit your packages for Fedora.us QA and inclusion according to the Fedora Package Submission Policy: http://www.fedora.us/wiki/PackageSubmissionQAPolicy
Fedora Extras is an official add-on repository for Fedora Core. My understanding is that it will at some point be moved to Red Hat hosting of the build system etc. although that isn't running yet, for now Fedora.us is Fedora Extras. By having your packages there you'll get visibility and an easy install for the Fedora community, and if GNUstep turns out to be popular it is possible that it could be included in the core distribution down the road.
I am not subscribed to the fedora-devel mailing list and do not wish to be unless I am "accepted" and allowed to create and provide GNUstep packages to Fedora.
Perhaps getting the packages into Extras will be enough to entice you to get on board? ;)
/Per
Hi,
I definitely agree with Per here, as it sounds like it would best be suited for Fedora extras. FC2 already comes with two of the most popular desktop environments out and I think it is unlikely that any more will be included in FC3. Many people, as your probably know, already feel that the download for FC2 is quite large and is somewhat unnecessary as many people do not want all the packages. I personally like the selection as I don't mind the download times however that does not seem to be the most popular feeling on this issue. I agree that it is more likely that it would be included in Fedora extras.
John Major www.JohnMajor.net
On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 20:57, Per Bjornsson wrote:
Hi, As nobody else seems to be answering (at least publically), possibly since today is a holiday in the U.S.A., let me toss in my $0.02. I'm not even much of a contributor (yet at least) but I've seen and to some extent participated in the discussions.
Alex Perez wrote:
I'm writing this e-mail because I've recently noticed that the most recent release of Fedora Core (2) does not contain any GNUstep packages, and as I've just installed it after getting sick and tired of Debian, I'd like to change that.
...
In fact it's alive and well, and with the inclusion of GNUstep packages into Fedora Core, one of the more popular distributions of Linux, we will gain the potential to expose many more people to GNUstep and its offerings.
I believe that it is quite unlikely that yet another desktop environment will be added to the core distribution for FC3, especially with the recent discussions about possibly trimming down the core distribution and putting more things in Extras. However, GNUstep sounds like a perfect fit for Fedora Extras, so please do submit your packages for Fedora.us QA and inclusion according to the Fedora Package Submission Policy: http://www.fedora.us/wiki/PackageSubmissionQAPolicy
Fedora Extras is an official add-on repository for Fedora Core. My understanding is that it will at some point be moved to Red Hat hosting of the build system etc. although that isn't running yet, for now Fedora.us is Fedora Extras. By having your packages there you'll get visibility and an easy install for the Fedora community, and if GNUstep turns out to be popular it is possible that it could be included in the core distribution down the road.
I am not subscribed to the fedora-devel mailing list and do not wish to be unless I am "accepted" and allowed to create and provide GNUstep packages to Fedora.
Perhaps getting the packages into Extras will be enough to entice you to get on board? ;)
/Per
Le lun, 31/05/2004 à 23:55 -0400, John Major a écrit :
Hi,
I definitely agree with Per here, as it sounds like it would best be suited for Fedora extras. FC2 already comes with two of the most popular desktop environments out and I think it is unlikely that any more will be included in FC3. Many people, as your probably know, already feel that the download for FC2 is quite large and is somewhat unnecessary as many people do not want all the packages. I personally like the selection as I don't mind the download times however that does not seem to be the most popular feeling on this issue. I agree that it is more likely that it would be included in Fedora extras.
Well, seeing how xfce made a stealth entry in FC2, lots of things can happent once there are quality packages in Fedora Extras.
Cheers,
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Alex Perez -
John Major -
Nicolas Mailhot -
Per Bjornsson