On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 05:32:43PM +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 01:26:39PM -0500, Brian Pepple wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> The top ten FAS account holders who have completed reviewing "Package
>> review" components on bugzilla for the year ending December 31st, 2008
>> were Parag AN(à¤ªà¤°à¤¾à¤—), Jason Tibbitts, Mamoru Tasaka, Manuel Wolfshant,
>> Kevin Fenzi, Jon Ciesla, Brian Pepple, Dan HorÃ¡k, Patrice Dumas, and
>> Marek Mahut. Below is the number of completed package reviews done
>> during 2008.
> I'd like to arrange for some sort of reward for the top 10 reviewers.
Good idea! I'm #11 ;-)
We could just as easily make this 5, or 15. The number isn't that
important to me personally, and the community can help decide the
> We could turn that into an annual event.
> There was a previous attempt at a "Fedora Award," but it was based on
> completely subjective measures whereas this reward would be (1) less
> hoopla involved, and (2) based on the completely objective measure of
> package reviews, which are both sorely needed in the project and
> obviously well-connected to our mission of advancing free software --
> in this case, by getting more of it included in the distribution.
Given the overall sentiment the last time; How are you going to award
whomever is doing whatever in whichever area doesn't have this kind of
statistics? I'm afraid the ones that had something to complain about
with the Fedora Award will find something to complain about this time.
There was a lot more to complain about with that award being (1)
decided out of public view, (2) not based on objective criteria, and
(3) publicly trumpeted as an "award" and not a "reward." I see this
as more of a bounty or a thank-you, not an award that promotes
specific people as somehow having more value to the project than
Any team in Fedora is free to find objective metrics and show
achievement based on those metrics. And I'd be open to finding a way
to thank people based on their objective achievements.
Why not combine whatever statistics we can pull from wherever, have
these people put their ranking on their personal Wiki page -if they even
want to-, and elect who's getting the Fedora Award? We could arrange for
the winners in YearN to not be eligible for YearN+1, too.
Elections devalue the point of the reward -- that it's based on an
objective measure and not biased by popularity, group awareness, or
any number of other social considerations. Those latter
considerations were some of the biggest complaints about having awards
bestowed on specific people -- as opposed to a reward for measurable
work completed. I think it's worthwhile to recognize people who are
measurably contributing to the fulfillment of our mission, in this
case by getting more software included in Fedora with a token reward.
Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/
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