On Sep 29, 2015 1:32 PM, "Richard Hughes" <hughsient(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 29 September 2015 at 18:08, Eric Griffith <egriffith92(a)gmail.com>
> That seems like a really bad idea..
The alternative is we have a "download" stage, which means we can't do
the blue "restart and update" action as it would download for a few
minutes, and then randomly reboot when you had just started doing
something else while you were waiting. The depsolve step is also
important; we only show updates that can actually be installed rather
than dnf which will install a subset of the true update list if there
are tree compose problems.
How early can dnf depsolve? Just based off package metadata or does it need
the whole package?
What if the notification is changed to be "There are updates available"
which only downloaded package information. Much like "dnf update"
Then opening software would display a pre-depsolved list, or post-depsolve
if possible. After depsolving it could show the culled list, where broken
updates are removed, and the downloading could begin, at user command.
Ending in "restart and install", at user command.
At least then the user would have feedback and would have an expectation of
longer steps (downloading) vs the things that should take a short time
> There's also the fact that if
> the connection is metered then we just ripped through a chunk of their
We only do the auto-refresh on wired or wifi connections. If you chose
to do the manual refresh button on mobile data that's up to the user.
Is there a reliable way to detect that though? If I tether via my phone or
turn my phone into a hotspot it comes up as Ethernet or WiFi, respectively.
It seems like we are going to run into the same issue that Microsoft is
where automatic downloads are giving people bill shock.
> Play Store don't download as part of a check, Windows
> doesn't, OS X Software Update doesn't, System Update for iOS and Android
Right, and that's a valid point; but until we have some kind of
platform / application split like atomic/xdg-app it's just not
achievable to download and install the applications at runtime. I'm
trying to do the best with the bits we have at the moment, and when
we've got a better platform story we can do something better.
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