On 06/12/2012 06:15 AM, drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro> wrote:
On 06/12/2012 12:58 PM, drago01 wrote:

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:

The point is we have a target audience:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base

Our desired users ARE contributors.

We do have a mission as well:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview#Our_Mission

"The Fedora Project consistently seeks to create, improve, and spread
free/libre code and content. "

And Bingo! the mission is all about freedom.
I didn't deny that.

Which you don't do by excluding users ... sure we want to gain new
contributors but that does not mean that we should exclude other
users.

Not if it affects our freedom, is a problem of freedom versus convenience.
No because secure boot does not limit your freedom in *any* way. If
you want to hack on the kernel or other low level stuff flip a switch
in the firmware.
It is reasonable to expect this type of users to be able to do that.

If spreading to some users means losing some freedom, then I think that is
against the mission.
We are not loosing any freedom we are implementing a technology that
makes fedora work out of the box on newer hardware.
This is MS classic ploy against free software embrace and extend. First it will be it can be disabled then for
windows 9 if you want to have approved hardware MS will require, like ARM, x86 secure boot can not be disabled
and they will point to Fedora and say see it is not necessary that we need to be able to turn off secure boot, free
software like Fedora works just fine with it enabled.


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