On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 15:48:08 +0100 (CET), Thomas Munck Steenholdt wrote:
Now that I have heard som much good about the quality about the
packages
at fedora.us, i decided to try to yum the packages for clamav onto my
test system... Let me just say that those packages are certainly not of
a quality that can even begin to compare against what we're used to from
the core packages... A core package can safely be assumed to install
cleanly.
The clamav packages do install cleanly.
It will have it's init scripts added to the chkconfig setup,
provide a decent default configuration file that can be modified slightly
to fit the users needs and if the package includes a daemon it can then
be started with a "service foo_service start" command.
Neither is the case with the clamav packages from fedora.us. First of all
a number of manual customizations has to be made in order to start the
daemon... including installing the default conf file, adding init scripts
and a lot of other things...
You have misunderstood the necessary set-up procedure completely.
Included is a README with the necessary steps plus a couple of config file
templates which are pre-configured except for a few lines which you must
uncomment/modify yourself according to the instructions.
Please read some of the explanations in the package request ticket
here:
https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=268
This is not how things should work, and that was the feeling I had of
the
non-core distros, when I suggested to include an antivirus package in the
core distribution.
I'm not afraid to do stuff on my own, but having to do so post-install
customization just to get stuff started really kinda defeat the purpose of
rpm and all our repository tools like yum and apt. It's nice that we can
quickly install a needed package - but if we need to spend half an hour
configuring the blasted thing before it will even start,
It certainly doesn't take half an hour.
we might just
as well have downloaded the tarball and compiled the stuff from scratch.
for a comparison (for those of you trying to install clamav from fedora.us)
check out the package made by Petr Kristof
http://crash.fce.vutbr.cz/crash-hat/1/clamav/ those are packages so much
nicer that the fedora.us ones.
I'm not the packager of the clamav packages, but I have participated in
the reviews. That someone else's package can be started right after
installation -- even as a single daemon -- does not mean that it is
"better" or "nicer" or more flexible or anything like that. It just
suits
your requirements more because you refuse to adjust configuration files.
If package-quality is going to be like this for the extras, I
don't think
that extras will be very successful or even useful.
See below.
As a note, please notice that the clamav packages are te only ones
I've
tried from fedora.us, and I'm in no way trying to insult the many skilled
developers maintaining packages on fedora.us.
With the previous paragraph you did exactly that. Please pick some other
packages -- maybe a normal application or a game. These don't require
security relevant adjustments or editing config files.
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