Am 05.01.2015 um 19:36 schrieb Miloslav Trmač:
> While I think you are right in some cases like cashier, isn't
this
> discussion really about the Fedora Workstation?! Since for this the
> target user is a developer, can we just agree that in this case the user
> needs both CLI and GUI apps (although some developers certainly sticks
> to one of them).
The gist is that
* Nobody _should_ need to use a terminal: non-developers¹ don’t need it, and developers
deserve a better environment. It’s “only” a matter of writing lots of new software.
AFAICT Workstation would in some ideal future want to get to this state. (And non-Linux
operating systems are getting closer and closer to this ideal over time.)
* _Currently_ most Linux developers do need to use a terminal.
So there is no right answer, only a trade-off: Make terminal usage discouraged and
difficult for current users, and hopefully get better non-terminal environment in the
future, or make terminal usage easy and the generally recommended way, and give up hope on
the developer UI significantly improving for the future users.
that's a completly wrong black/white viewpoint
* make terminal usage *never* discouraged and difficult
* hopefully get better non-terminal environment in the future
* keep terminal usage easy
* do *not* give up hope on the developer UI significantly improving
these points can live at the same time
BUT discourage terminal and *hopefully* get better non-terminal
environment *in the future* is by all respect pure bullshit because i
don't throw away my car now in the hope of get a private aeroplane in
the future