I hope the package gets unretired, because the way things are now, even  dnf groupinstall "Audio Production" fails to work. 

- Mehdi 

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 15:11 Guido Aulisi <guido.aulisi@gmail.com> wrote:
Il giorno dom, 05/01/2020 alle 12.21 +0100, Miro Hrončok ha scritto:
> On 03. 01. 20 19:24, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > > The dep was provided by non-ntk, which got retired about half a
> > > year
> > > ago [1] after FTBFSing since F29 [2].
> >
> > <SARCASM>Isn't it great</SARCASM> when the policy designed to
> > remove
> > breakage from the distribution actually CREATES breakage? Retiring
> > packages
> > with no regards to their reverse dependencies is just broken. It
> > had never
> > been done that way in the past, before Miro's recent crackdown,
> > because it
> > simply defeats all common sense.
>
> As a matter of fact, the policy was changed recently, so depending
> package
> maintainers MUST get notifications. The Fedora 31 round was
> unfortunate, mostly
> because nobody got properly notified. I have devoted a great amount
> of energy
> and time to make it better for next rounds. I hope it worked. Only
> couple of
> packages are to be retired, where the maintainers simply don't care
> anymore with
> only one dependent package:
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/YRLNHZSV4U47A3MDWIU6MUANVMPEFKD2/
>
> For the F31 crackdown - it's not like a retired package cannot ever
> be
> unretired. It has been more than 8 weeks now, but I gladly re-review
> a package
> that got retired, if new maintainers pop up. Unlike you, I actually
> believe
> packages must be maintained in order to be kept.

I'm working for unretiring non-ntk, I think I can file a new review
request in one week, as soon as I come back home; I'm already working
on it.

> The solution is not to stop orphaning/retiring FTBFS packages, the
> solution is
> to get "broken deps" notifications working again:
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/RBV3UTSPIGW3TOZJSYTXCZMRV4QBR7X5/

Ciao
Guido

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