On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 12:21, Pavel Raiskup <praiskup@redhat.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 5:06:59 PM CEST Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 03:16, Pavel Raiskup <praiskup@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > The KMail app stopped working for me today, and I realized there's
> > update to which I'd like to give a try:
> >
> >   https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-15d324f87c
> >
> > In Bodhi, the suggested command to test this update is:
> >
> >   sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
> > --advisory=FEDORA-2020-15d324f87c
> >
> > But that doesn't work because the mirrored updates-testing is not
> > yet updated.  And downloading all the builds manually from Koji
> > is just too much work ATM.
> >
> > Would it be possible to enhance Bodhi so it provides the repositories
> > somewhere in the meantime, before composes are ready?
> > This is not the first time I'd found this feature very convenient.
> >
>
> A couple of things. Bodhi doesn't make composes and doesn't directly
> provide anything, so it would need to be some other tool which built and
> provided the mini-compose. This tool would need extra hardware and disk
> space as we aren't budgeted for this and will not see more disk space to
> our current infrastructure til probably 2022.
>
> Second, the Bodhi team was a temporary group to get a bodhi feature set
> over the line at a certain point in time. Those people are now assigned to
> other projects to get container builds, flatpaks, replacing our 12 year old
> account system, and other items into place. When those items are completed
> those people will be assigned to fixing whatever other new tool is needed
> to get things done.
>
> If people want this, there is going to need to be a project request with a
> detailed explanation, project scope, budget idea, what it will fix and
> various ways to weigh it against other projects, etc. I am guessing this
> would need to go to the council to work out if it is a higher need than
> some other items they expect CPE to work on.

Ok, ok..   I fear it is out of scope for me to drive this.  Just saying
what I'd found useful (and I probably filled the RFE against a wrong component.
Sorry). 
I'm fine with the 'bodhi' client auto-download and the custom script
for now ...  In future I'll try to submit a PR against bodhi client, or dnf
plugins, I don't know ... and move the logic there.


The issue is that what is needed is a better end to end definition of what the build system needs to be, and how to make it so versus a lot of requests where people come in with different things and we cram one more feral cat into the bag to make it work. I know that Kevin has tried to get a couple initiatives together overtime but not a lot of takers since it is mostly politics of horsetrading. 

 
Pavel






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Stephen J Smoogen.