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On 02/01/15 11:42, Richard Hughes wrote:
>> Because as of now, gnome-software just doesn't fit the workstation bill
>
> I think you're misunderstanding what most developers do. We probably
> spend about 10 minutes installing development packages (on the command
> line) when setting up a new OS instance. I then spend a year or so of
> installing or removing the odd application, and a few minutes every
> week applying updates. I don't think GNOME Software is hugely useful
> for installing low-level developer packages, which is fine. It doesn't
> mean it's not a useful application.
I don't know if "most" developers works with more or less just one
toolchain and environment as you describe. At least "some" actually
works in a lot of projects, with different development packages and
sometimes also tools.
That said, what about describing the developer usecase as a project,
focusing on a user using both GUI and CLI tools?
- Get the sources (if they exist).
- Install a toolchain, GUI-based or not.
- Install dependencies: -devel packages, interpreted modules, etc.
- Install project- or user-specific tools (GUI or not).
- Keeping the installed sw updated.
Installing the toolchain seems like DevAssistant to me. Besides this, I
understand your position as if users are supposed to use yum/dnf except
for GUI development tools and their dependencies (?)
Currently DevAssistant "assistants" (read: plugins) that we have in Fedora are
more of "kickstart a new project and install deps along" rather than
"install a toolchain and perhaps do some other environment setup". This can
however be easily extended by writing different plugins that will do just that.
E.g. I can imagine us having "da prep fedora-dev c" (which will BTW
automatically gain a clickable counterpart in GUI) that will setup development environment
for C (and similar for other languages). We can even provide some choices like
--use-eclipse, --use-whatever-other-IDE, ... I'm willing to put my work into this, but
I'm mostly a Python developer, so I'd need input from people working with
languages.
Does that sound worth pursuing?
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Regards,
Slavek Kabrda