Dne 11.9.2015 v 16:44 Reindl Harald napsal(a):
Am 11.09.2015 um 16:31 schrieb Zdenek Kabelac:
> Dne 11.9.2015 v 15:47 Reindl Harald napsal(a):
>> don't tell me rpmfusion could not easily make that fully automated
>>
>>> This Fedora plan simply puts too much work at everyone's hands.
>>>
>>> Sure - people who care about safety might have some option - like I
>>> always want to have ONLY the latest lib - and drop everything else, but
>>> there are still lot of users who could live with older libs quite
>>> happilly (and especially in the case they do not use the library in
>>> question AT ALL - which is the maint point here)
>>
>> you said "every one has tons of free time" - well - and who would
>> maintain the
>> dozen of versions of libraries packages?
>
> You miss few important points:
>
> 1.)
> If you have lib.so.2 and lib.so.4 - it may need far more work then
> just running rpmbuild - so far away from 'fully automated'.
do we now build distributions backed by "may" and "possible"
in most cases it is just a "rpmbuild" like the mass-build on koji and the
exceptions need some handwork, no big drama
> 2.)
> What maintaining time are we talking about - since Fedora breaks working
> thing in the first place for no good reason and force massive
> maintenance time on every user of new library in 'short' time for some
> potential 'security' fixes - but you may on the other hand put in dozed
> of new security breaks anyway - and when I see how frequently i.e. gtk
> libs may break whole distro - it would be far more pleasant to see
> just couple broken apps at time - instead of rendering whole rawhide
> unusable....
just because you don't understand or agree with the reasons don't mean they
are not good
In real-world developing & testing app to work with all components takes
significantly more time then in Fedora 'garden'.
Not sure why you fail to understand this - I do like to have some apps to be
latest/greatest - while others might be rather 'tested & stable' or even
'have
them' (since they are no longer developed).
More complex projects even fail to fit in 1/2 year release cycle.
In non-Fedora 'world' it's the user who picks what he want to use,
however in Fedora 'garden' a few people selects what user may use and puts
huge walls and pointless obstacle all around if they want to use something
else - yes I fail to see why this should be good for me....
Zdenek