On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Peter
Robinson<pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Focus on rawhide will mean the next release will see the improvements :)
>>
>> That means, that the next release will be untested, as usual. So why
>> create another useless initiative?
>
> Huh? your on the devel list and you don't use rawhide? Maybe I should
> introduce you to the fedora-test list.....
>
>> Please, keep in mind, that almost nodoby using Rawhide == nobody will
>> participate except few paid Red Hat developers == useless initiative.
>>
>> I repeat - this initiative should be based only (exclusively) on
>> current releases.
>
> What a load of crap! I use rawhide as do hundreds of other testers. I
> don't use it on my work laptop until feature freeze but I do use it on
> my home laptop, netbook, a number of VMs and servers and I know LOTs
> of other people do......
>
> Given that the release CD/DVD images/isos don't get updated and until
> they update there's no improvement what's the point?
Let's try not to let doomsayers drag down the level of debate here.
The other Peter made a reasonable point that we can address without
calling it a load of crap probably. We have a thread here that should
be a light in the darkness. A way for us all to make something we
love even better. Let's try to keep it positive.
Apologies my point was that developers are by definition users too.
They may be using vim/emacs to grind code but they still browse,
email, IM etc like every other desktop usser...
Peter