Am 14.06.2014 16:39, schrieb Haïkel Guémar:
Le 14/06/2014 15:59, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> what eactly is broken in the CLI?
I'll chose an example you care about: protected packages.
You pretend that DNF maintainers refused to support that, but actually, the answer is
that they think it should be
implemented as a plugin. I agree with you, most of the time, removing the running kernel
is stupid but they are use
cases where it makes sense. DNF maintainers felt that it should not be in core because it
clutters the code and is
restrictive for users.
restrictive for users?
the 1 out of a million can use "rpm -e"
A smarter move would be to (kindly) request that such plugin is
written and enabled by default in F22.
a smarter way would have been write such plugin instead
close the bugreport
> that must be why "dnf remove kernel" kills your system
If I give you a riffle, and then you willingly shot yourself in the foot, don't
complain
that is somehow different than replace the package-manager with a riffle
Am 14.06.2014 16:32, schrieb drago01:
> "dnf remove yum dnf kernel" ruins your system
> yum don't allow that for good reasons
>
> that's unacepptable behavior and was refused to change
I can list a tons of commands that "ruins your system" ...
While I might understand why use "yum remove kernel" (to remove
everything but the running kernel) the other commands do not make
sense.
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda also "ruins the system" ... -> strawman
the strawman is on your side
* dd's job is to write raw data
* the package managers job is help to maintain a machine
and ruin it - especially if it did not many years before
by doing exactly the same
> dnf needs much more RAM currently while the feature page
> pretends it has a smaller footprint - so it's not ready
> or the feature page is a "would nice to be" not backed
> by the reality
Or maybe there is a bug (memory leak)? Did you file one?
i know the answer: nobody runs a system with 192 MB and it
don't fullfill the Fedora minimum requirements so we don't
care really because it works faster the way it works