Am 14.06.2014 15:48, schrieb Haïkel Guémar:
Le 14/06/2014 15:15, Reindl Harald a écrit :
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> stop that trolling
Weren't you the one trolling here? Because that's what many people are thinking
about this thread.
backed by what data?
Don't you think that turning every discussion on DNF into a flame
war is helpful or serves your purpose ? Even the
ones where the maintainer requests feedback and help to improve the very same points
you're complaining about ?
don't you think if after i made clear my point of view a handful
people starting quibbling is the real reason for become a flamewar?
In a community, there are mainly two ways to influence its
direction:
a) do things yourself
b) convincing the others that you're right
Like many here, you're not doing a) and you're doing poorly b), so either try to
tone down your argumentation or
learn how to use jedi mind tricks.
tell that the two people who go repeatly off-topic
> "to maintain yum in the long term" is a completly
different thing than
> keep *full compatibility* - compatibility is independet from the YUM
> code itself
You were requesting that the Fedora Packages manager keeps the same user interface
and behavior *forever* no matter how much broken it is
what eactly is broken in the CLI?
DNF has done a pretty good work, in keeping compatibility with yum.
Besides, DNF is
basically yum 4.0, nobody would complain if we were to break UI/behavior compatibility.
that must be why "dnf remove kernel" kills your system
>> Yet, I still do not see you offering any help to achieve
that, only you
>> requiring it.
> as you do not offering to do the work of re-view and adopt
> any existing script and howto out there
Fedora is not entitled to maintain third-party scripts but we might provide
you some help if *you* ask.
it would be enough not breaking them or stop pretend you
create a operating system if Fedora drives in a direction
to be a only self contained appliance with no care for
other software running on tp of
> you understand that any compatibility break is a side effect for
the user?
You're not the only one who cares about user experience, please read the proposal.
"This change will be completely transparent for users that use only the graphical
package management tools. For anybody using the command line directly there will
be some differences, but all the important operations are
available with DNF, using the same CLI syntax."
oh yeah - proposals
is that the same one pretending a lower memory footprint while
"dnf upgrade" on a VM with 192 MB RAM get killed by the kernel
while "yum reinstall \*" works fine?
250 MB RAM is a bad joke for a single process
i have servers wich are doing the ir complete workload with less over months
I'm answering you out of kindness, but keep it the gentleman way
or i'll request moderation, thanks
nice - threaten with moderation because you don't like someones opinion